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30 Oct 2015, 09:26 AM
#21
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Oct 2015, 08:50 AMBlalord


As OST i dont expect my Tiger winning against 2 Su 85 / 2 Jacksons / 3 Su-76.
As SOV i dont expect my Is2 Winning against 2 Stugs / 2 Panthers.
As USF why should i expect a Pershing winning against 2 Stugs / 2 Panthers ?

2 Panthers are 980 MP and 350 Fuel


I like how you mention nothing of the Elephant, King Tiger, Jadg Tiger and Tiger Ace. Which by the way, Axis completely dominates the armor field when either of these heavy tanks hit the field. It doesn't matter if you make 2-3 Jacksons, Su-85's or whatever. An Elephant, KT or JT will deny any sort of armor on the field.

USF has only 1 heavy tank. By the time you can field it, someone's gonna already have either one of those heavy tanks on the field.

But you can sit there and continue your straw man argument.
30 Oct 2015, 09:33 AM
#22
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Oct 2015, 09:26 AMvarunax


I like how you mention nothing of the Elephant, King Tiger, Jadg Tiger and Tiger Ace. Which by the way, Axis completely dominates the armor field when either of these heavy tanks hit the field. It doesn't matter if you make 2-3 Jacksons, Su-85's or whatever. An Elephant, KT or JT will deny any sort of armor on the field.

Tiger ACE is an abheration ( but at least, it has been nerfed ) that have to be removed ( same as flamers on rifles )

USF has only 1 heavy tank. By the time you can field it, someone's gonna already have either one of those heavy tanks on the field.

But you can sit there and continue your straw man argument.


I like how you dont mention ISU-152 that can instawipe infantry, and do some serious AT damage if switch shell.

A KT is slow as shit, i never lost my jackson/Su-85/Su-76 to a KT.

Elephant and Jadgtiger weakness is 100% AT, Slow as fuck, and huge cost ( for JT at least ), same weakness for ISU, beside is not 100% AT.

Lets stay on topic, Pershing is fine. he doesnt need a buff to solo 2 panthers. :)
30 Oct 2015, 09:35 AM
#23
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This thread is going to become a flame war within no time :foreveralone:
30 Oct 2015, 09:36 AM
#24
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Oct 2015, 09:33 AMBlalord


I like how you dont mention ISU-152 that can instawipe infantry, and do some serious AT damage if switch shell.

A KT is slow as shit, i never lost my jackson/Su-85/Su-76 to a KT.

Elephant and Jadgtiger weakness is 100% AT, Slow as fuck, and huge cost ( for JT at least ), same weakness for ISU, beside is not 100% AT.


I want you to count how many heavy tanks USF has. Tell me pls.
30 Oct 2015, 09:38 AM
#25
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Oct 2015, 09:36 AMvarunax


I want you to count how many heavy tanks USF has. Tell me pls.


i want you to count the winrate of USF without the need of Heavies (http://coh2chart.com/)
30 Oct 2015, 09:42 AM
#26
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Patrion 14

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i love the new commander, very fun, relic please give us more ty :)
30 Oct 2015, 10:24 AM
#27
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Vet 2 HP buff to 960 and armor buff to 340.
30 Oct 2015, 10:32 AM
#28
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in my tests it's lose to kv2 and t34-85 (:sibHyena::sibHyena::sibHyena::sibHyena::sibHyena:)
it's like comet\panther with better gun
BUT it's AP shot SO GOOOOOOOOOOD (240 on pen or 80) ISU cry in the corner
it's more like sherman firefly
30 Oct 2015, 10:44 AM
#29
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Pershing doesn't get crew repair?

Was this intentional?
30 Oct 2015, 10:48 AM
#30
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Pershing doesn't get crew repair?

Was this intentional?

OFC
just think - with standart USF crew there is no limit for nuber of pershing on field
30 Oct 2015, 11:09 AM
#31
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Oct 2015, 09:33 AMBlalord


I like how you dont mention ISU-152 that can instawipe infantry, and do some serious AT damage if switch shell.


*snort*
hahahaha
hohohoho
hihihihi
... seriously

Don't rely on you memories of last year. Mobility is bad. Reload is very long. Penetration is very unreliable against Panthers and better. It can't spot for itself (unlike the Elefant with spotting scopes) and is incredible inaccurate. Oh, yeah and the switch shell, how much time did it take? I think about 11 or 9 seconds if i´m not mistaken.
30 Oct 2015, 11:13 AM
#32
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Vet 2 HP buff to 960 and armor buff to 340.

Sigh.
30 Oct 2015, 11:15 AM
#33
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Oct 2015, 09:26 AMvarunax


I like how you mention nothing of the Elephant, King Tiger, Jadg Tiger and Tiger Ace. Which by the way, Axis completely dominates the armor field when either of these heavy tanks hit the field. It doesn't matter if you make 2-3 Jacksons, Su-85's or whatever. An Elephant, KT or JT will deny any sort of armor on the field.

USF has only 1 heavy tank. By the time you can field it, someone's gonna already have either one of those heavy tanks on the field.

But you can sit there and continue your straw man argument.


+1

m26 need a buf i dont care higher its cost and make it stronger !!!.
30 Oct 2015, 11:16 AM
#34
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Oct 2015, 11:15 AMbicho1


+1

m26 need a buf i dont care higher its cost and make it stronger !!!.


Sure. As long as they buff Tiger also.
30 Oct 2015, 11:23 AM
#35
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Johnnyyy... You are just pathetic MVGame
30 Oct 2015, 11:29 AM
#36
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Oct 2015, 11:16 AMJohnnyB


Sure. As long as they buff Tiger also.

They just did.
30 Oct 2015, 11:30 AM
#37
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No idea where to report that.
Here is a replay (Time 19.27) Call-In Pershing, but it never hit the field.
http://kremlin.planet.ee/m2ngud/Company%20of%20Heroes%202/19.27.pershing.call.in.rec
30 Oct 2015, 13:11 PM
#38
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Oct 2015, 10:48 AMGLBZ

OFC
just think - with standart USF crew there is no limit for nuber of pershing on field


Are you sure the game doesn't Count vehicles -regardless if they are crewed or not? A Pershing is a Pershing to the game - -nevermind if it's crewed or not.

Otherwise you could have a more than max Tigers too if one gets decrewed.

You're probably thinking about the popcap exploit, but check for popcap isn't the same as check for Unique vehicles.
30 Oct 2015, 13:12 PM
#39
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And they just let Wasp do as much damage aas a KV8! That doesnt make sense to me.
30 Oct 2015, 13:23 PM
#40
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pershing is a deception with this low hp , i saw it losing a 1v1 against a freaking panther that's ridiculous, cost as much as a heavy is limited but its not a truly heavy.
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