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14 Oct 2015, 18:17 PM
#41
avatar of Whoa

Posts: 64

I don't think you can actually limit the pershing to 1.

I mean, if the game tells you can only have 1 pershing. Just decrew your tank and walla you have no pershing because your not in the tank anymore. Just call the second pershing and get back in your first one and there you go; 2 pershings.

Repeat process till your popcap is filled with tank crew men and man all your pershings.


Vehicle crew is disabled with Pershing.
14 Oct 2015, 18:19 PM
#42
avatar of Panzerschützen

Posts: 186

in terms of real life, Pershing was just a Panther on stereoids. Better gun, better armor thus slower. Hope Relic will make it just right.
14 Oct 2015, 18:20 PM
#43
avatar of What Doth Life?!
Patrion 27

Posts: 1664

jump backJump back to quoted post14 Oct 2015, 17:37 PMA_E


USF commander
14 Oct 2015, 18:22 PM
#44
avatar of Keaper!
Donator 11

Posts: 135

What is it with Relic's hard on for flame weapons? They are way over-represented in the game as it is. Kinda disappointed they decided on a Flame Hetzer of all things (<50 total built) to give OKW. Also, what was the point of the volk grenade change if they were releasing this commander anyway?

Pershing and rangers though :hansGASM:. Not sure if it's the best idea to put both in 1 commander but these two iconic units definitely belong in the game, long time coming.
14 Oct 2015, 18:22 PM
#45
avatar of adrian23

Posts: 87

jump backJump back to quoted post14 Oct 2015, 18:09 PMMuxsus
The epic battle for meta dominance between flamer company and ranger pershing is on.

Also axis is officially dead.


Yes, poor axis never lucky .. never OP :snfPeter:
14 Oct 2015, 18:27 PM
#46
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It does not matter how it work.
What matters is that it is MP boost for faction with already huge MP float.


I always can use my mp in 1 vs 1 and still lack it because of weak volks early game so i need to go double eigt or duelbe sturms to not loose whole map (or double mg , or fussiliere / jagers) So it may help em finnaly in 1 vs 1 (you can see in charts that htey are the worst one)


On the other hand its not good idea to give USA
1. cheap russian mines on best main line infantry
2. best early game (liehtenaunt)
3. folloved by best mid game (stuart) + even increase the gap so paks get anihilated with rangers :D
4. folloved by pershing spam (because of brad pit crews that jup out of tank to call in next one)
5. and then pershing increase stats of rifles and rifles increase stats of pershing and finnaly usaa get nice smoke cover :foreveralone:


Sprice will have new experiment: Rangers + pershing spam in late game instaed of m10 + RETs spam :hansUSA:


played games chart :

russians 10 % (Luvnest co.)
Ostheeer 15 % (Devm + others that doesnt play okw)
Brits 20% (cause their new)
OKW 25% (flaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaames)
USA 30% ( :hansUSA: :hansUSA: :hansUSA: :hansUSA: :hansUSA: )


winrates:
Rus 50 %
Ostheeer: 45%
OKW: 60 %
Brits : 45 %
USA: 70 %


Actually one day when i got completely bored in night i startd to think about fight fire with fire commander (4 months ago)

The commader would look pretty much like this one (with dark coat) except he had ciggar
Abilities in the end were :
0cp: all infatry gets incendiary nades
1cp: clownkubel - kubelwagon with long range flametrower (like wasp now)
3cp: flametrower - all infantry can requisition flamethrower
7cp: walking stuka incendiry barrage (like from normal walking stuka vet 4)
10cp: jagther with flamethrower


NOTE: im not kidding it really happended and from that my drunk day a dreamt about this commader for ostheer or okw , not that pershing hype.

His name was :hansGG:FIGHT WITH FIRE :hansGG:

14 Oct 2015, 18:30 PM
#47
avatar of What Doth Life?!
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Posts: 1664

Meanwhile Recon and mechanized are crying in a corner.


:foreveralone: +1

Also, I vote for the USf commander to be named: We Lied About USF Never Having Heavy Tanks."
14 Oct 2015, 18:33 PM
#48
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Posts: 473

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This is going to be good. USF players will rush ahead their precious pershing, Ostheer players blow it up with double stugs supported by pak 40 and the USF players will cry on the forums about how horrid their dream tank is.

Any information about what the Rangers get, m1 garands as starting unit with thompson upgrade or just the weapon rack stuff?
14 Oct 2015, 18:38 PM
#49
avatar of _GarbageMan_

Posts: 83

So much crying from axis for something that no one has even played yet.
14 Oct 2015, 18:39 PM
#50
avatar of The Big Red 1

Posts: 758

fuck yeah!!! USF finally get heavy armor of their own and rangers too! the playing field is finally gonna get leveled in the late game
14 Oct 2015, 18:39 PM
#51
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702

Oh look, all these folks crying about how pershing will be the most OP tank in history without knowing a single stat or anything about how the tank will be implemented actually.


So, lets get the facts straight.


Pershing health - 800 (same as panther) in comparison is-2/tiger has 1040, KT has 1280
Front armor - 290 (slightly less than panther , panther has 320) IS-2 has 375
Range - 50 (same as panther) IS-2 has 40 tiger/kt has 45
Penetration - 220/240/260 ( same as panther)
Speed - slower than panther
Anti infantry power - about as good as PIV/comet/churchill etc.
vet 1 ability - HVAP rounds ( i believe)


Oh NO, so OP, USF gets a slower panther which with a bit more punch againts infantry which faces much better anti tank than the panther.

The end is NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIGH.


#USFOP


Oh and BTW, the pershing will take the exact same amount of shots from AT as an E8/bulldozer. Only difference between pershing and E8 is that pershing has more armor, making it deflect shots more. But againts high powered axis AT, pershing will be no more durable than an E8.
14 Oct 2015, 18:42 PM
#52
avatar of _GarbageMan_

Posts: 83

Relic will make sure not to nerf anything until they have optimal sales on the commanders though.

Just like the partisans, they probably felt like they didn't sale enough. So they gave a glimmer of hope to the commander only to crush them after they made their sales.
14 Oct 2015, 18:42 PM
#53
avatar of Sedghammer

Posts: 179

A couple commanders, well alright. I'm wondering what the big announcement could be.

Your guess is as good as mine. Both commanders look like they are good picks for team games.
14 Oct 2015, 18:43 PM
#54
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Oct 2015, 18:39 PMBurts
Oh look, all these folks crying about how pershing will be the most OP tank in history without knowing a single stat or anything about how the tank will be implemented actually.


So, lets get the facts straight.


Pershing health - 800 (same as panther) in comparison is-2/tiger has 1040, KT has 1280
Front armor - 290 (slightly less than panther , panther has 320) IS-2 has 375
Range - 50 (same as panther) IS-2 has 40 tiger/kt has 45
Penetration - 220/240/260 ( same as panther)
Speed - slower than panther
Anti infantry power - about as good as PIV/comet/churchill etc.
vet 1 ability - HVAP rounds ( i believe)


Oh NO, so OP, USF gets a slower panther which with a bit more punch againts infantry which faces much better anti tank than the panther.

The end is NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIGH.


#USFOP


Oh and BTW, the pershing will take the exact same amount of shots from AT as an E8/bulldozer. Only difference between pershing and E8 is that pershing has more armor, making it deflect shots more. But againts high powered axis AT, pershing will be no more durable than an E8.



Except panther does not come after great early game infantry and vehicles pressure
14 Oct 2015, 18:45 PM
#55
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Well, this will be interesting...
14 Oct 2015, 18:46 PM
#56
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Posts: 113

jump backJump back to quoted post14 Oct 2015, 18:39 PMBurts


So, lets get the facts straight.


Pershing health - 800 (same as panther) in comparison is-2/tiger has 1040, KT has 1280
Front armor - 290 (slightly less than panther , panther has 320) IS-2 has 375
Range - 50 (same as panther) IS-2 has 40 tiger/kt has 45
Penetration - 220/240/260 ( same as panther)
Speed - slower than panther
Anti infantry power - about as good as PIV/comet/churchill etc.
vet 1 ability - HVAP rounds ( i believe)



Do you have this infos from the Relic Stream? I was not able to watch it sadly.
14 Oct 2015, 18:49 PM
#57
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Posts: 1702

jump backJump back to quoted post14 Oct 2015, 18:46 PMSikko


Do you have this infos from the Relic Stream? I was not able to watch it sadly.



This were the stats from the pershing when it was in the brit alpha test.


Some other alpha testers seem to have confirmed it. My info might be outdated though.
14 Oct 2015, 18:49 PM
#58
avatar of Cultist_kun

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OKW commander.
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#59
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i'll be going through the unit stats on a later stream that kyle mentioned so that all the theorycrafting can FULLY start then.
14 Oct 2015, 19:00 PM
#60
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Any link to the naming contest thread? Is it up yet?
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