Hey guys!
I have been researching old forum posts, but cannot find information on the exact stats of the Hull Down ability. Does anyone know the current exact stats? I found out that the Command P4 gives a -20% received damage buff to everyone in the aura.
Also can Hull Down be used on Ostheer Allies?
Thanks!
Hull Down
13 Oct 2015, 00:03 AM
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13 Oct 2015, 03:54 AM
#2
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I do not believe that Hull Down can be used on other allies and all the Hull Down ability does is make the damage seem like the enemy tanks are attacking a trench. Been a long time since I used this ability because if your German and you sit defensive now you loose.
13 Oct 2015, 04:25 AM
#3
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It definitely gives you more range(10 or so). Managed to get on the same range as an SU85 with a panther, using hull down. As for the other effects, I dont really know. I think it affects damage taken in a similar fashion the command p4 would. But not sure on that one.
And no, you cant hull down your allies tanks. It used to be possible in beta and shortly after it, but they removed that in one of the earlier patches after release, unfortunately. Never understood why but meh, so be it.
And no, you cant hull down your allies tanks. It used to be possible in beta and shortly after it, but they removed that in one of the earlier patches after release, unfortunately. Never understood why but meh, so be it.
13 Oct 2015, 04:32 AM
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hulldown gives
25 percent more range
20 percent faster reload
25 percent less receiving damage
Here you are.
13 Oct 2015, 11:22 AM
#5
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Here you are.
I saw that one, but thought it was old information since I am sure it doesnt affect reload anymore, but rather rate of fire? Thanks though!
13 Oct 2015, 11:44 AM
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I saw that one, but thought it was old information since I am sure it doesnt affect reload anymore, but rather rate of fire? Thanks though!
Reload IS rate of fire for vehicles.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
13 Oct 2015, 11:59 AM
#7
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Can you also use it on allied tanks?
A dug in Elefant would be sick.
A dug in Ostwind is like a Flak HQ on cocaine.
A dug in Elefant would be sick.
A dug in Ostwind is like a Flak HQ on cocaine.
It is though God by command has withdrawn every other throne.
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
13 Oct 2015, 12:10 PM
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It can be used only on your own tanks.
For example you cannot hull down OKW Panther.
Don't know about captured tanks. Did not try it.
Once I had great game on Minsk.
Elephnat, Ostwind and Command Pz 4 covering middle VP. All hulled down.
No way to break it
Still, hulled down Panther can laught at SU85, FF or Jackson.
For example you cannot hull down OKW Panther.
Don't know about captured tanks. Did not try it.
Once I had great game on Minsk.
Elephnat, Ostwind and Command Pz 4 covering middle VP. All hulled down.
No way to break it
Still, hulled down Panther can laught at SU85, FF or Jackson.
13 Oct 2015, 12:19 PM
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Still, hulled down Panther can laught at SU85, FF or Jackson.
Panther emplacement
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
13 Oct 2015, 12:38 PM
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Though it looks nice on paper, practically the hulling down thing is not such a big deal. Entrench a tank and it will be eventualy killed by AT guns because he can't effectively retaliate especially if it's a panther. And even if the ATs would be killed too, the trade off is in ATs favor. Coh2 victory means fast, mobile, strong units not emplacements and trenches.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
13 Oct 2015, 12:48 PM
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It can be used only on your own tanks.
For example you cannot hull down OKW Panther.
Don't know about captured tanks. Did not try it.
Once I had great game on Minsk.
Elephnat, Ostwind and Command Pz 4 covering middle VP. All hulled down.
No way to break it
Still, hulled down Panther can laught at SU85, FF or Jackson.
Captured tanks that share Wehrmacht tank types can be hulled down ie panther or P4.
Allied tanks cannot be hulled down. However i have recovered a Tiger Ace and used hulldown on it.
It was the most lulzy thing ive ever seen in a MP game.
Tanks that can be hulldownd: (No HT's Pwerfer would be funny)
Stug (All Wehrmacht variants)
PanzerIV (All Wehrmact varients including PanzerIV F1 *Campaign*, no OKW)
Ostwind (All Wehrmact varients, no OKW)
Panther (All Wehrmact varients, no OKW)
Bummbar
Elephant
Tiger
Tiger Ace
13 Oct 2015, 12:54 PM
#12
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Reload IS rate of fire for vehicles.
For tanks yeah, but is it for ostwind for example? or 222? I think they also have reload.
13 Oct 2015, 13:11 PM
#13
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It can be used only on your own tanks.
For example you cannot hull down OKW Panther.
Don't know about captured tanks. Did not try it.
Once I had great game on Minsk.
Elephnat, Ostwind and Command Pz 4 covering middle VP. All hulled down.
No way to break it
a silly question, 4 axis player playing as axis, got all command p4 , and deployed them at the same place where they have 4 hulled down elefants, what would happen in that case ?
do command p4 effects stack ?
imagine if they do Kreygasm
13 Oct 2015, 13:20 PM
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For tanks yeah, but is it for ostwind for example? or 222? I think they also have reload.
Autocannons have both RoF and Reload.
13 Oct 2015, 13:28 PM
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a silly question, 4 axis player playing as axis, got all command p4 , and deployed them at the same place where they have 4 hulled down elefants, what would happen in that case ?
do command p4 effects stack ?
imagine if they do Kreygasm
I dont know if it stack and even if it works on other players but imagine if it gets abandoned (it can be right? or is it like TA?) and it gets crewed by usf and then recrewed 100 times
13 Oct 2015, 13:41 PM
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a silly question, 4 axis player playing as axis, got all command p4 , and deployed them at the same place where they have 4 hulled down elefants, what would happen in that case ?
do command p4 effects stack ?
imagine if they do Kreygasm
They don't stack.
Yet you can stack bonuses from hull down, Command Pz4 and Command Panther.
13 Oct 2015, 14:52 PM
#17
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I dont know if it stack and even if it works on other players but imagine if it gets abandoned (it can be right? or is it like TA?) and it gets crewed by usf and then recrewed 100 times
Apparently they don't stack , but if you get a command panzer 4 and a command panther in range for a hulled down elefant u'd have a real beast of a tank (1600 hp +1200 hp = 2800 hp )
13 Oct 2015, 15:30 PM
#18
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I've never used hull down if I'm not wrong. Perhaps once
13 Oct 2015, 15:31 PM
#19
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Can you also use it on allied tanks?
A dug in Elefant would be sick.
A dug in Ostwind is like a Flak HQ on cocaine.
No you cannot.
13 Oct 2015, 15:36 PM
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Ability is interesting, if not very niche. AT guns nullify the added benefits in most cases, but it can still work.
This is a theoretical idea that looks really cool, but is practically very limited in use.
This is a theoretical idea that looks really cool, but is practically very limited in use.
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