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Ostheer sniper HP nerf

13 Sep 2015, 14:52 PM
#41
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Sep 2015, 11:41 AMAladdin
Ok, Ost sniper is only an issue against Brits. So if anything to be fair, give it rec. acc. against Brits' IS


Ost sniper is also a problem to USF, not just Brits.

Camos too fast and has insane ROF.
13 Sep 2015, 15:06 PM
#42
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Ost sniper is also a problem to USF, not just Brits.

Camos too fast and has insane ROF.


USF has enough advantages over Ost, but the thing is USF has enough counters to the Ost's sniper but Brits doesn't
13 Sep 2015, 15:11 PM
#43
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Sep 2015, 15:06 PMAladdin


USF has enough advantages over Ost, but the thing is USF has enough counters to the Ost's sniper but Brits doesn't


Which counters are you refering to?

M20 gets shreded by PAKs and 1 teller.

Light vehicles don't counter sniper beyond 6-9 min.

Smoke is soft counter.

USF doesn't have sniper.
13 Sep 2015, 15:13 PM
#44
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Which counters are you refering to?

M20 gets shreded by PAKs and 1 teller.

Light vehicles don't counter sniper beyond 6-9 min.

Smoke is soft counter.

USF doesn't have sniper.


I really wonder how the axis dealt with the soviet sniper then. use you lv's correctly
13 Sep 2015, 15:19 PM
#45
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Sep 2015, 15:13 PMZyllen


I really wonder how the axis dealt with the soviet sniper then. use you lv's correctly


Once mines and Zis covered the sniper lv were useless, but atleast they could countersnipe to stall SU sniper.

And the soviet sniper didn't inflict that much bleed that Ost sniper does. Imagine SU sniper with Ost ROF, that's the match-up in Ost vs UKF or USF.

13 Sep 2015, 16:01 PM
#46
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So nerf the soviet sinpers to 1 men first.
13 Sep 2015, 16:02 PM
#47
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Sep 2015, 15:06 PMAladdin


USF has enough advantages over Ost, but the thing is USF has enough counters to the Ost's sniper but Brits doesn't


Bullshit. Please give me a list of effective hard counters to sniper.

M20? Even with upcoming buff it comes just at the same time as 222 AC.
13 Sep 2015, 16:26 PM
#48
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this thread is so :hansRNG::banana::hansRAGE::clap:
13 Sep 2015, 17:05 PM
#49
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Sep 2015, 16:02 PMNEVEC


Bullshit. Please give me a list of effective hard counters to sniper.

M20? Even with upcoming buff it comes just at the same time as 222 AC.


L2P

compare Brits with USF
compare IS with rifles
m20 is a unit in this game
l2p
etc
13 Sep 2015, 17:07 PM
#50
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Which counters are you refering to?

M20 gets shreded by PAKs and 1 teller.

Light vehicles don't counter sniper beyond 6-9 min.

Smoke is soft counter.

USF doesn't have sniper.


with your reasoning Soviets don't have a counter to that either!
just l2p
13 Sep 2015, 17:16 PM
#51
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Sep 2015, 17:07 PMAladdin


with your reasoning Soviets don't have a counter to that either!
just l2p

TBH if they went T2, they don't.

But why would you pick sniper vs soviets over mortar?
13 Sep 2015, 17:47 PM
#52
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Sep 2015, 17:05 PMAladdin


L2P

compare Brits with USF
compare IS with rifles
m20 is a unit in this game
l2p
etc


Increase soviet sniper rate of fire and accuracy to ostheer sniper level, reduce aim time, give same camouflage.

L2Play axis whinners, it will be ablosuletely balanced, you have kubelwagen to counter.
13 Sep 2015, 19:17 PM
#53
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Sep 2015, 15:13 PMZyllen


I really wonder how the axis dealt with the soviet sniper then. use you lv's correctly


Gren spam, turbo mortar, 222 or even OH sniper.
SU sniper is annoying when they are paired, so you have 3 grens for their 2 snipers. Therefore you have map control. No longer are the days on which you had sprint (totally bs) on snipers*.

*Yeah, i know there is a commander which lets you sprint with OH.
13 Sep 2015, 20:37 PM
#54
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Sep 2015, 17:07 PMAladdin


with your reasoning Soviets don't have a counter to that either!
just l2p


Rather than being a dick swinging (saying this to 1v1 top 70-80)

L2argue m8...typical forum warrior

13 Sep 2015, 21:01 PM
#55
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the werhmacht sniper SHUTS DOWN THE BRITISH

anyone who defends them should play 1vs1 or 2vs2 with the brits and THEN form their opinion on the matter
13 Sep 2015, 21:48 PM
#56
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Also ostheer scout car munny cost need to be reverted. Now it comes at time when it counters all vehilces that only come at field (m20 , flame carrier) but is a lot cheaper and deafeat them easily.


Also if you ever played agains competent ostheer player you would never kill his sniper becuase of faust and sniper cloak.


Also incendiarry ammo need to be dome it is more cancerous like sprint
13 Sep 2015, 22:17 PM
#57
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Round and round we go, I am getting tired of this really. THings get buffed then after enough wining they get nerfed and then after one side steamrolls people till they run to the forums they get buffed again. Snipers got buffed to what they are now because no-one used them because they would be wiped too easily either by charging rifles or countersniped by soviets.

I am really scared because of the nerfs coming without thought and planning. Sniper to good,indirect fire too good and brit armor too good and there is going to be a relic back lash and the nerf hammer is gonna swing wild so everyone has to hurry and learn new meta and a few months down the line it will swing the otherway.

Sniper has to be used against brits to bleed and prevent tank spam because there isn't a lot ost can do against early brit tanks. Nerfs to them are coming and undoubtedly nerfs will come to sniper and that will leave things competely open for US to be op just like von ivan knows it is and no one will get to play a game in any sort of sensible thought out manner and the struggle will continue as long as people whine hard.
14 Sep 2015, 00:22 AM
#58
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Sep 2015, 17:16 PMKatitof

TBH if they went T2, they don't.

But why would you pick sniper vs soviets over mortar?


You're right about that damn turbo mortar and I'm glad it's getting nerfed this patch
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