Hey guys/Relic,
When my vet 3 Tank Hunter Sections get there auto scoped rifles they seem to do less damage, I asked our savior Cruzz if this was my imagination but he confirmed for that they actually downgrade the squad.
Steps to make > get Tank Hunter Section to vet 3 > enjoy they're being worse then before.
Thank you
Scoped Lee Enfields bug
4 Sep 2015, 23:14 PM
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4 Sep 2015, 23:18 PM
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Hey guys/Relic,
When my vet 3 Tank Hunter Sections get there auto scoped rifles they seem to do less damage, I asked our savior Cruzz if this was my imagination but he confirmed for that they actually downgrade the squad.
Steps to make > get Tank Hunter Section to vet 3 > enjoy they're being worse then before.
Thank you
Worse than before? How is that even possible
I've noticed this too. The scoped lee enfields are bugged in multiple ways.
4 Sep 2015, 23:19 PM
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The only stat that is different to the regular Lee Enfield is that Scoped ones have a longer reload (meaning less DPS).
4 Sep 2015, 23:26 PM
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The only stat that is different to the regular Lee Enfield is that Scoped ones have a longer reload (meaning less DPS).
Cooldown too.
Regular tommies get two of these bad boys on vet 3 too, it's not just tank hunters.
Relic moved the tommy cover bonus from an ability to the weapon stats, but forgot to adjust the scoped rifle, so now it lacks the *0.3 cooldown and *0.5 reload modifiers that the basic lee enfield gets.
Plus on top of that it probably should have some kind of increase in stat over the basic rifle to actually have a reason to exist.
4 Sep 2015, 23:45 PM
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Really relic? really?
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5 Sep 2015, 00:36 AM
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How scoped lees work? Death crit wounded squads? Do higher damage? Everything at the time?
5 Sep 2015, 01:35 AM
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How scoped lees work? Death crit wounded squads? Do higher damage? Everything at the time?
They are just Lee Enfields that sound different and do less DPS because they have a longer cooldown and reload
5 Sep 2015, 01:53 AM
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They are just Lee Enfields that sound different and do less DPS because they have a longer cooldown and reload
Lol wtf. Relic you drunk go home.
5 Sep 2015, 10:59 AM
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There's your reward for keeping your expensive units alive to vet 3.
5 Sep 2015, 11:08 AM
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Does vet 3 increase the weapon drop-rate on these squads?
Anywho, Lelic, why u do dis, plz fix
Anywho, Lelic, why u do dis, plz fix
6 Sep 2015, 21:34 PM
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In the new post Cruzzi made, you can see the dps of the scoped rifles as well, notice how they're worse.
http://www.coh2.org/topic/36347/cruzz-s-the-more-you-know/page/16#post_id389058
tommy_lee_enfield_rifle_mp: 4.266 / 3.621 / 2.892
tommy_scoped_lee_enfield_rifle_mp: 2.982 / 2.585 / 2.077
weapon_crew_lee_enfield_rifle_mp: 1.611 / 1.293 / 0.969
Tommy out of cover:
tommy_lee_enfield_rifle_mp: 3.963 / 3.384 / 2.712
tommy_scoped_lee_enfield_rifle_mp: 2.589 / 2.262 / 1.825
tommy_bren_light_machine_gun_mp: 4.485 / 5.699 / 6.643
http://www.coh2.org/topic/36347/cruzz-s-the-more-you-know/page/16#post_id389058
tommy_lee_enfield_rifle_mp: 4.266 / 3.621 / 2.892
tommy_scoped_lee_enfield_rifle_mp: 2.982 / 2.585 / 2.077
weapon_crew_lee_enfield_rifle_mp: 1.611 / 1.293 / 0.969
Tommy out of cover:
tommy_lee_enfield_rifle_mp: 3.963 / 3.384 / 2.712
tommy_scoped_lee_enfield_rifle_mp: 2.589 / 2.262 / 1.825
tommy_bren_light_machine_gun_mp: 4.485 / 5.699 / 6.643
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6 Sep 2015, 21:51 PM
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I thought the Scoped Lee Enfields had higher accuracy (or were a "cool" way to reflect Vet 3 higher accuracy?) Or do they have the higher accuracy but the bugged Cover Bonus cancels it out?
6 Sep 2015, 22:14 PM
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I thought the Scoped Lee Enfields had higher accuracy (or were a "cool" way to reflect Vet 3 higher accuracy?) Or do they have the higher accuracy but the bugged Cover Bonus cancels it out?
Its just visual, not another weapon.
It should just be normal lee enfield with shorter cooldown and scoped graphic.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
7 Sep 2015, 04:29 AM
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other people have reported that it's a special weapon and will cause IS to turn into weapon pinatas as a result.
9 Sep 2015, 19:31 PM
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The only stat that is different to the regular Lee Enfield is that Scoped ones have a longer reload (meaning less DPS).
Either way, its most probably not meant to be a downgrade. Completely goes against game design. So must be a bug. Probably leftover weapon data from their in-house value tuning crept in.
9 Sep 2015, 19:32 PM
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Its just visual, not another weapon.
It should just be normal lee enfield with shorter cooldown and scoped graphic.
I believe it is a separate weapon. Have read that in multiple threads now.
27 Mar 2016, 02:13 AM
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Hey guys, sorry for the necro. I need to know what changes with the scoped enfields at vet 3 - do the IS get death crits? Higher dps? Faster DPS? Did they solve the bug? Thanks!
27 Mar 2016, 02:47 AM
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Never noticed any death crits. The scoped now do the same damage as standard Lee Enfields and have slightly better stats but no abilities, range etc differences.
It adds up to about a 14% increase in dps, so 7% average per model, but still causes Brens to drop so is pointless. Would happily trade no upgrade here for the Bren bug to be fixed, though merely increasing all of the Lee Enfields in the squad by 7% would technically be a slight nerf but far preferable.
Sooo many cool things they could have done with these and instead it is just a problem. As you say death crits, higher range, snipe ability, bonus versus garrison or cover.. Reload and cooldown aren't even relevant...
It adds up to about a 14% increase in dps, so 7% average per model, but still causes Brens to drop so is pointless. Would happily trade no upgrade here for the Bren bug to be fixed, though merely increasing all of the Lee Enfields in the squad by 7% would technically be a slight nerf but far preferable.
Sooo many cool things they could have done with these and instead it is just a problem. As you say death crits, higher range, snipe ability, bonus versus garrison or cover.. Reload and cooldown aren't even relevant...
27 Mar 2016, 06:16 AM
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I think what happened was Relic team spent all the money on that Beginner's Guide and Faction Profiles infographics.
Its just visual, not another weapon.
It should just be normal lee enfield with shorter cooldown and scoped graphic.
TO be fair though, they were two separate infographics.
27 Mar 2016, 06:25 AM
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It's very sad that the brit's vet is so lame. I mean, the squad is tough, but it could use some better vet stats at 3, at least.
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