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25 Jun 2015, 07:23 AM
#121
avatar of Katitof

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I don't think US needs help at all, but the 42 was buffed and indeed perhaps slightly overbuffed, and we'll see earlier Grenade techs now.

I'd say that exactly might become a problem.
You'll be forced to tech early and spend fuel to counter menpower only unit, because your early game units can't contest what is being thrown at them.
This screams imbalance and bad USF design.
But next changes will fix it to a point.
25 Jun 2015, 09:23 AM
#122
avatar of Ful4n0

Posts: 345



Iv been putting in the effort all day, but don't you think it's silly that one side has to put in so much effort versus such a lazy commander/strat?

Like you say "use combined arms", well yes, that is literally all Ostheer does.


what a shame you didn´t think the same way when arguing once and other and other againts improving USF late game, as in some Jackson threads before their last buff.


oh well, anyone knows you here, so no surprise....

25 Jun 2015, 09:44 AM
#123
avatar of MoerserKarL
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jump backJump back to quoted post25 Jun 2015, 07:23 AMKatitof

But next changes will fix it to a point.


MG42 from HQ? :foreveralone:
25 Jun 2015, 09:49 AM
#124
avatar of treiber

Posts: 57

decals are not running from coh2 and faceplate
25 Jun 2015, 11:11 AM
#125
avatar of ATCF
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MG42 from HQ? :foreveralone:




Pioneers with good line of sight that can spot targets for the MG 42, from the same building!?!
25 Jun 2015, 13:49 PM
#127
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Triple pio + dual mg into t2. If mg is in HQ
25 Jun 2015, 16:44 PM
#128
avatar of austerlitz

Posts: 1705

The katyusha is extremely powerful.Literally can't find a counter to defended katy.
25 Jun 2015, 16:59 PM
#129
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I havent used the katyusha yet. Whats wrong with creeping barrage? Does it just unload the entore salvo at once or?
25 Jun 2015, 17:16 PM
#130
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I havent used the katyusha yet. Whats wrong with creeping barrage? Does it just unload the entore salvo at once or?


More or less. For 90 munitions, it unloads all rockets at a more concentrated area. To describe the area of effect, its shorter than the walking stuka highlight (whatever when you selecting an area to shoot at), but slightly fatter. Identical marker/whatever as Anti-tank tactics/commander's Anti tank bombing run.

Its a change from precision strike. Precision strike caused a katyusha to snipe walking stukas, etc, but creeping barrage allows for a higher amount of damage done to a smaller area (in rapid succession) compared to normal strike of 4 volleys.

So its pretty darn cool.
25 Jun 2015, 17:33 PM
#131
avatar of Katitof

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I havent used the katyusha yet. Whats wrong with creeping barrage? Does it just unload the entore salvo at once or?

If it works as it did in alpha(which is safe assumption) then all I have to say is that oshterlitz just whines as usual without any base.
25 Jun 2015, 18:27 PM
#132
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IMO if the mg42 is going to be this effective then flanking one needs to be highly rewarded. At the moment it shuts down a huge area without much of a risk.
25 Jun 2015, 18:52 PM
#133
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IMO if the mg42 is going to be this effective then flanking one needs to be highly rewarded. At the moment it shuts down a huge area without much of a risk.


It is, you get to capture the MG42.
25 Jun 2015, 19:09 PM
#134
25 Jun 2015, 19:15 PM
#135
avatar of REforever

Posts: 314

It would've been a great patch if Relic released all of the changes that were in Alpha, but I guess they figure the CoH2 community can't handle meta shifts and that our brains would melt if they gave us too many changes Kappa.

Satisfactory changes all around except OKW as usual got shafted, and constantly fight an uphill battle against Allies compared to Wehrmacht. Yet again, every match you're forced to go Mechanised Regiment and get a flak half track or lose the game. A good patch would be where OKW isn't forced to go fast flak half track 98% of the time just so they can counter infantry.
25 Jun 2015, 19:35 PM
#136
avatar of FestiveLongJohns
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It is, you get to capture the MG42.


The point is, flanking an MG doesn't usually result in a decrew unless the axis player is asleep.
25 Jun 2015, 19:40 PM
#137
avatar of TheCrimsonSpire

Posts: 31

I've noticed that the Z-hotkey does not respond to input after the last patch, anyone else notice this, or is it just me? I'm using the modern hotkey layout.
25 Jun 2015, 19:49 PM
#138
avatar of Alexzandvar

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The point is, flanking an MG doesn't usually result in a decrew unless the axis player is asleep.


The MG42 and 34 didn't get a survivability buff, they still die quite easily.
25 Jun 2015, 20:00 PM
#139
avatar of spajn
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Posts: 927

MG42 is fine, keep it as it is.. its finally fun to use machineguns again and not a source of frustration. Increase their buildtime by 33% if mg42 spam gets out of hand but keep machineguns feel like machineguns please.
25 Jun 2015, 20:03 PM
#140
avatar of G4bb4_G4nd4lf
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Posts: 658



The point is, flanking an MG doesn't usually result in a decrew unless the axis player is asleep.


The "reward" for flanking an HMG is that you render it useless (it will have to re-position) giving you time to push.

Even if you don't manage to wipe it, flanking an HMG is better than getting suppressed and having to retreat :D
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