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T-34 needs a buff

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10 Jun 2015, 18:22 PM
#201
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Jun 2015, 18:15 PMUGBEAR


relic make non-doc KI, non-doc luchs, non-doc ostwind, non-doc sturm tiger, meanwhile doctrinal only T-34/85, doctrinal only Sherman w/76mm gun, when T-34/85 have been produced 3 times than the panther tank..... hard to believe the game designer is not an aixs biased dude.


Spot on.
10 Jun 2015, 18:57 PM
#202
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so what ur saying is axis OP eh?
10 Jun 2015, 19:02 PM
#203
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so what ur saying is axis OP eh?


http://coh2chart.com/
10 Jun 2015, 19:04 PM
#204
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http://coh2chart.com/

Those aren't winrates ratchet. The other chart thread shoes that allies have the dominant win percentages. People will always pick axis over allies because they are more fun.
10 Jun 2015, 19:07 PM
#205
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People will always pick axis over allies because they are more fun.


[citation needed]

I'll tell you m8, I'm having a blast here with my beloved Soviets.
10 Jun 2015, 19:09 PM
#206
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[citation needed]

I'll tell you m8, I'm having a blast here with my beloved Soviets.

You know what I mean, generally whenever axis is a choice, the majority will play them. Hell I've gotten to a higher rank as soviets than I think I'll ever get with ostheer or okw. Easier to win but no I don't have more fun with them. Thats just my opinion though.
10 Jun 2015, 19:54 PM
#207
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t34-76 need pentration buffs with vet2(sorta like mirror p4 armor increase) , and little rate of fire and mobility at vet3.

This will make the users get rewarded for preserving them midgame and higher penetration will make the late game a bit easier when high armored axis tanks come.

I think all allied tanks need penetration buffs at vet2 whilst all axis tanks should get armor increases at vet2.
vet3 can be varried from unit to unit. medium tanks can get mobilty increases and heavy tanks can get rate of fire increases or vice versa.

oh and vet1 on soviet tanks should be +10 sight range increase.. all the other faction vet1s are pretty good tho
10 Jun 2015, 20:10 PM
#208
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I think the key to buffing the T-34 is two things:

1. Making Ram useful

2. Making their vets more useful

If Ram was a better tool, then it wouldn't matter that the T-34 can't match up in a shooting match with the P4. Also, the vet bonuses seem lackluster to me. I'd love maybe a speed bonus, better rate of fire bonus, maybe something that makes it a better flanker.
10 Jun 2015, 20:28 PM
#209
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Jun 2015, 20:10 PMZeaviS
I'd love maybe a speed bonus, better rate of fire bonus, maybe something that makes it a better flanker.


They already get that mate.
10 Jun 2015, 20:39 PM
#210
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Jun 2015, 20:28 PMSmaug


They already get that mate.

True, just more speed to flank heavies is kinda useless in practice when you'll still bounce at least a third of the rounds against them anyway.
10 Jun 2015, 20:58 PM
#211
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Jun 2015, 20:28 PMSmaug


They already get that mate.


True, but I want it to be better.
10 Jun 2015, 22:56 PM
#212
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http://coh2chart.com/


People play more Allies in 1v1 and 2v2, people play more Axis in 3v3 and 4v4. This proves what exactly?
11 Jun 2015, 01:05 AM
#213
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You know what I mean, generally whenever axis is a choice, the majority will play them. Hell I've gotten to a higher rank as soviets than I think I'll ever get with ostheer or okw. Easier to win but no I don't have more fun with them. Thats just my opinion though.


Rising Storm would like a word with you.
11 Jun 2015, 01:37 AM
#214
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People play more Allies in 1v1 and 2v2, people play more Axis in 3v3 and 4v4. This proves what exactly?

Allied players tend to like winning, Axis players tend to like heavy tanks?
11 Jun 2015, 03:47 AM
#215
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While I admit the t-34/76 doesn't need a buff dmg/rof wise....it does need slightly better vet bonuses, as to have a better chance vs a vet 2-3 P4/2-5 Panther and vet 2-3 Tiger towards the late game.
11 Jun 2015, 06:31 AM
#216
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Jun 2015, 10:33 AMBurts

The high losses of the t-34 can be explained due to many reasons. And while it's individual performance might be one of them, it is definately not a major reason.

And the main reason is Panzerfaust.
11 Jun 2015, 07:11 AM
#217
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 03:47 AMVonIvan
While I admit the t-34/76 doesn't need a buff dmg/rof wise....it does need slightly better vet bonuses, as to have a better chance vs a vet 2-3 P4/2-5 Panther and vet 2-3 Tiger towards the late game.


Finaly. Finaly someone with THE SOLUTION. Now that, that I would agree with. T34 needs to scale better in veterancy maybe not so much as you described, but this is definetely the only reasonable way to buff it.
11 Jun 2015, 07:23 AM
#218
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 07:11 AMJohnnyB


Finaly. Finaly someone with THE SOLUTION.

Actually, this solution was here - like from 3rd page, and not once or twice after that, in different variants.
11 Jun 2015, 08:23 AM
#219
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Is it me or is the vet 3 t34-76 underwhelming? If I succeed to keep it alive that long, it than faces better armor, which kill it with ease. In my opinion , they are designed to be used in massive formations. Which is a fine and pretty need design, yet why are they 100 fuel than? They cost to much..
11 Jun 2015, 08:31 AM
#220
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Jun 2015, 07:11 AMJohnnyB


Finaly. Finaly someone with THE SOLUTION. Now that, that I would agree with. T34 needs to scale better in veterancy maybe not so much as you described, but this is definetely the only reasonable way to buff it.


Did you not ready anything at all, in this mammoth thread? A lot of people have been saying the same thing man. Stop sucking up, dude
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