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USF should be considered OP after the Red October Patch

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5 Nov 2014, 13:25 PM
#1
avatar of HardworkingBulldozer

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I take back what I said in the past, that Pshrecks are OP.

Shrecks seem to be useless against early Sherman/T34 rush. Vet2 Rfmen with flamethrowers and bars can't be countered with any okw unit, specially in closed/urban maps. Jackson and p47 will force your Koenigstiger back to his mama. Paras with Thompsons eat Obers+STG alive, let alone sturms or Falls.

I'm not mad because a noob broke my 12+ streak, actually It's more fun to play 1vs1 as USF right now. However it does not need any more buffs imo. It's ok as it is.
5 Nov 2014, 13:26 PM
#2
avatar of Hitman5

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I'm sick to death of the scott squad wiping every time it fires, I don't care if you blame unit grouping or what, it's retarded. How can you even have unit preservation when this thing is just randomly squad wiping full health squads?
5 Nov 2014, 13:28 PM
#3
avatar of sneakking

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Paras with Thompsons eat Obers+STG alive, let alone sturms or Falls.


Post replay please.

Only way this is possible is if Paras were vet and Obers were new.
5 Nov 2014, 13:29 PM
#4
avatar of HardworkingBulldozer

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Yeah noob obers, vet 2 paras.

@HM5. Nothing wrong with the new grouping cover system. It's an improvement honestly. But the old mindset that USF is the weakest faction in the game is not valid anymore. It's quite fun to play as USF after the patch.
5 Nov 2014, 13:30 PM
#5
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Yeah noob obers, vet 2 paras.


Then game is working as intended.
5 Nov 2014, 13:48 PM
#6
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I'm sick to death of the scott squad wiping every time it fires, I don't care if you blame unit grouping or what, it's retarded. How can you even have unit preservation when this thing is just randomly squad wiping full health squads?


Upset you can't just Amove your Volk blob through american armor anymore? Also watching Siberian stream the last few days, it is not even close to "everytime", it is more like 1 out of 10 times.

This replay:
http://www.coh2.org/replay/26523/kinderpartysmackdown-rekt-again
not a single time was Volks one shot wiped by Scotts, took two shots at close range to wipe one squad once. Volk blobs were pushing Scotts and Jacksons off the field left and right before those lucky shots finally came in.
5 Nov 2014, 14:00 PM
#7
avatar of AvNY

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Yeah noob obers, vet 2 paras.




..." with Thompsons."

Were they standing still? Had the increased firepower been selected?
5 Nov 2014, 14:05 PM
#8
avatar of Aerohank

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Schreks are not useless against early armor, but you have to make a choice.

Either spend all your ammo on schreks, at which point you should have enough ammo for 2-3 of them by the time the first enemy medium armor hits. With an added Rackettewerfer43 you can hold out long enough to call in a panther.

If you are gonna spend ammo on other things like grenades, mines, G43s etc, you are going to need something like a Puma to counter early enemy armor because you won't have the shreks to stop them.
5 Nov 2014, 14:44 PM
#9
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You lost a game and suddenly you changed your view on balance. We know it, you know it, admit it.
5 Nov 2014, 14:52 PM
#10
avatar of Katitof

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Ever considered the possibility that its not balance, but maybe, juuuust maybe you had wrong BO and got outplayed?
5 Nov 2014, 15:36 PM
#11
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The fact this is a troll thread and it got a bunch of people is amusing to me. Bear laughs.
5 Nov 2014, 15:51 PM
#12
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Nov 2014, 15:36 PMNapalm
The fact this is a troll thread and it got a bunch of people is amusing to me. Bear laughs.


I would have never guessed, with the thread starter's profile pic and all.
5 Nov 2014, 15:52 PM
#13
avatar of Porygon

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I'm sick to death of the scott squad wiping every time it fires, I don't care if you blame unit grouping or what, it's retarded. How can you even have unit preservation when this thing is just randomly squad wiping full health squads?


Reason that I quit this game for now.
I can't stand this anymore, see you next patch.

4 squad of Volks, then Ober, Falls, all vetted guys, all die in one shot, shot by shot with full health.
Whoever the balance dev or guy responsible to this, "GARDEN" you.

Now I may re-consider buying AA or not.
5 Nov 2014, 15:53 PM
#14
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Nov 2014, 15:36 PMNapalm
The fact this is a troll thread and it got a bunch of people is amusing to me. Bear laughs.


If there is something this forum has taught me something is that there is little difference between trolls, clueless and clueless trolls.
5 Nov 2014, 15:58 PM
#15
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Love how axis player rant about 1 shotting armor, regarding the overperforming P4 one shotting everything :)
5 Nov 2014, 15:58 PM
#16
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Upset you can't just Amove your Volk blob through american armor anymore? Also watching Siberian stream the last few days, it is not even close to "everytime", it is more like 1 out of 10 times.

This replay:
http://www.coh2.org/replay/26523/kinderpartysmackdown-rekt-again
not a single time was Volks one shot wiped by Scotts, took two shots at close range to wipe one squad once. Volk blobs were pushing Scotts and Jacksons off the field left and right before those lucky shots finally came in.


really?





all in a single game. full health ober wiped, full volks squad wiped & retreating 4 man volks wiped.

5 Nov 2014, 16:01 PM
#17
avatar of FrikadelleXXL

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well if you move through no cover areas like streets, no wonder you get kickassed. I only see an infantry-blobbing player getting punished for doing so which is right :)
5 Nov 2014, 16:03 PM
#18
avatar of Burts

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really?





all in a single game. full health ober wiped, full volks squad wiped & retreating 4 man volks wiped.




The obers getting wiped was just unlucky. Any indirect fire weapon can do that, even say a mortar.


The other two were just a-moving blobbed volks into specialist anti infantry weapons.. Yeah, perhaps you shouldn't do that...

Most weapons will do these kind of things nowadays, PIVS, tigers, t-34/85s, you name it.
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