The TM-35 and Schu-mine cost the same, but the later delivers 2x the damage. The stats on the mines are almost identical. The differences are suppression values that don't make a difference, since neither mine suppresses and the damage.
The Schu-mine should be increased in cost within the range [45,60], to reflect it's higher damage output or cost kept the same and damage halved.
Mine cost imbalance
12 Oct 2014, 16:45 PM
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29 Jul 2014, 12:16 PM by siuking666:
T34/76 is NOT a joke on my hands; Maybe on your hands you make it suck shit? but on me, No. I can kill a stug with a little micro, go toe to toe with a Panzer 4. Is it a joke? LOL T34/85 is apparently a very good tank. But no one says it "one hit wipe" or elefant penetration; up to a point i think this little medium tank just have too much health and too much firepower with that fuel cost.
12 Oct 2014, 16:48 PM
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Its cost has to do with that the OkW has a lower munitions income.
12 Oct 2014, 16:55 PM
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The TM-35 and Schu-mine cost the same, but the later delivers 2x the damage. The stats on the mines are almost identical. The differences are suppression values that don't make a difference, since neither mine suppresses and the damage.
The Schu-mine should be increased in cost within the range [45,60], to reflect it's higher damage output or cost kept the same and damage halved.
are you nuts. even the teller only cost 50 ammo at the moment. from personal experience the schu mine is sigiifcantly less effective against infantry then the tm-35
horrida flamma bella
12 Oct 2014, 17:02 PM
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are you nuts. even the teller only cost 50 ammo at the moment. from personal experience the schu mine is sigiifcantly less effective against infantry then the tm-35
60.
But sure, keep spreading mis information about basically anything you say, that'll end up with healthy discussions.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
12 Oct 2014, 17:21 PM
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Teller Mines
This removes the possibility of the mine instantly destroying the M36 or M10, something we viewed as undesirable and overly frustrating to the opposing player.
Damage from 500 to 400
Cost from 60 to 50 ammunition
This removes the possibility of the mine instantly destroying the M36 or M10, something we viewed as undesirable and overly frustrating to the opposing player.
Damage from 500 to 400
Cost from 60 to 50 ammunition
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
12 Oct 2014, 17:25 PM
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Whoops then.
And I pwned myself.
Don't know how did that escaped me.
And I pwned myself.
Don't know how did that escaped me.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
12 Oct 2014, 17:26 PM
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60.
50.
But sure, keep spreading mis information about basically anything you say, that'll end up with healthy discussions.
Ah well, got ninja'd by someone else AND a correction
But really, do shu-mines do double the damage of TM-35s? I'm quite sure they don't oneshot T70s for example...
12 Oct 2014, 17:30 PM
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12 Oct 2014, 19:56 PM
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Milka has spoken, case closed.
12 Oct 2014, 20:06 PM
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Axis has less muni income and allies have bigger squads, i think its time to buff schu mine 
12 Oct 2014, 20:13 PM
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Kappa
12 Oct 2014, 20:16 PM
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Everything is fine here. Case closed.
12 Oct 2014, 21:48 PM
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http://www.coh2-stats.com/explosive_weapons/schu_mine_mp
http://www.coh2-stats.com/explosive_weapons/tm-35_mine_mp
Exactly the same damage.
Well at least there is 1 useful post in here. I've been looking for this, but all I found was this http://www.coh2-stats.com/explosive_weapons/assault_pioneers_heavy_mine_mp. Who lays that mine?
29 Jul 2014, 12:16 PM by siuking666:
T34/76 is NOT a joke on my hands; Maybe on your hands you make it suck shit? but on me, No. I can kill a stug with a little micro, go toe to toe with a Panzer 4. Is it a joke? LOL T34/85 is apparently a very good tank. But no one says it "one hit wipe" or elefant penetration; up to a point i think this little medium tank just have too much health and too much firepower with that fuel cost.
12 Oct 2014, 21:53 PM
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Well at least there is 1 useful post in here. I've been looking for this, but all I found was this http://www.coh2-stats.com/explosive_weapons/assault_pioneers_heavy_mine_mp. Who lays that mine?
Some incoming DLC commander most likely.
That or a leftover from alpha.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
12 Oct 2014, 21:57 PM
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Posts: 1130
Whoops then.
And I pwned myself.
Don't know how did that escaped me.
Nothing new their.
horrida flamma bella
12 Oct 2014, 22:01 PM
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Posts: 593
Its cost has to do with that the OkW has a lower munitions income.
so basically okw resorce starve don't matter cuz there stuff is cheaper to make up for it? thx for insight
12 Oct 2014, 22:03 PM
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Not seen that new mine before, as stated most likely DLC/unused commander. Might get to see it in game, sort of an alternate like how Ost gets doctrinal Mines for HT.
12 Oct 2014, 22:16 PM
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Nothing new their.
Its called admitting to mistake.
You might want to learn it one day, will make you look that much less of an a-hole.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
12 Oct 2014, 22:43 PM
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If OKW tools need to be "balanced" out by making more effective things cost the same as less-effective things because they have 20% less income, then better to just give normal income and place a normal price. Things are less confusing that way.
Any mods feel free to lock thread as I was comparing the wrong files.
Any mods feel free to lock thread as I was comparing the wrong files.
29 Jul 2014, 12:16 PM by siuking666:
T34/76 is NOT a joke on my hands; Maybe on your hands you make it suck shit? but on me, No. I can kill a stug with a little micro, go toe to toe with a Panzer 4. Is it a joke? LOL T34/85 is apparently a very good tank. But no one says it "one hit wipe" or elefant penetration; up to a point i think this little medium tank just have too much health and too much firepower with that fuel cost.
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