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27 Jun 2014, 00:16 AM
#141
avatar of Death's Head

Posts: 440

jump backJump back to quoted post26 Jun 2014, 21:56 PMKatitof


Or simply not be an exploiting dick.

Anyway it will be slightly more survivable then M3 scout car and won't be able to crush infantry tomorrow(or today at night).


Guess we forgot about M3 Snipers already. Exploits have always been a part of CoH. If you haven't noticed, players will do just about anything to win. People sit around and try to formulate how best to rush someone off the map by finding the smallest yet most profound gaps in the balance framework in order to not give their opponent a chance.

It's a free-for-all of cheap tactics out there...what makes this bug any different to a balance oversight like snipers in clowncars?
27 Jun 2014, 05:33 AM
#143
avatar of Brachiaraidos

Posts: 627



Guess we forgot about M3 Snipers already. Exploits have always been a part of CoH.


M3 snipers were not an exploit. M3 snipers were a design choice they redacted in time because it turned out to be utterly broken. The entire soviet fraction pretty much got a buff in return to keep them competitive, mind.

You can tell that wanted them in there for a while because the first attempted fixes were making it 50% accuracy on the move and then the crew inside having a 50% chance to snuff it.

This is an exploit that was fixed and slipped the net. It's not meant to be there at all.
27 Jun 2014, 06:24 AM
#144
avatar of Flamee

Posts: 710

Sorry guys but I can and WILL use this until it's fixed. WAY too effective to pass up on. Reliable, fast and heavily armoured early recon w/ridiculous crushing abilities?

You would have to be a samurai or 12th century knight to have the honor NOT to use it.


Wow, such skills, so pro, very hardcore.

Seriously. What did you achieve (I know it's getting fixed) by exploiting a bug? You got a small rank buff which you will obviously lose after its fixed.
27 Jun 2014, 06:53 AM
#145
avatar of buckers

Posts: 230


Sorry guys but I can and WILL use this until it's fixed. WAY too effective to pass up on. Reliable, fast and heavily armoured early recon w/ridiculous crushing abilities?

You would have to be a samurai or 12th century knight to have the honor NOT to use it.



totekopf skull as avatar

fanboy artwork in sig

abuses OKW trucks

truly, naziboos are the worst kind of people.
27 Jun 2014, 07:25 AM
#146
avatar of wongtp

Posts: 647

o well, running around the capture flag works wonders against these guys, traverse is so slow they cant do anything.
27 Jun 2014, 15:42 PM
#147
avatar of ilGetUSomDay

Posts: 612

Sorry guys but I can and WILL use this until it's fixed. WAY too effective to pass up on. Reliable, fast and heavily armoured early recon w/ridiculous crushing abilities?

You would have to be a samurai or 12th century knight to have the honor NOT to use it.


This is pretty much the only example (go to his reccent posts for way more) people should need to report him.

Please do the community a favor and get him banned.
27 Jun 2014, 15:49 PM
#148
avatar of Napalm

Posts: 1595 | Subs: 2

This tactic was counter-able in every game type than 1 v 1. Two M3 scout cars make quick work of a monster truck.
27 Jun 2014, 22:14 PM
#149
avatar of Death's Head

Posts: 440



M3 snipers were not an exploit. M3 snipers were a design choice they redacted in time because it turned out to be utterly broken. The entire soviet fraction pretty much got a buff in return to keep them competitive, mind.

You can tell that wanted them in there for a while because the first attempted fixes were making it 50% accuracy on the move and then the crew inside having a 50% chance to snuff it.

This is an exploit that was fixed and slipped the net. It's not meant to be there at all.



Hence it was an exploit. Just because it was an intentional development decision made by the devs doesn't rule it out as being used as an exploit and being abused by some players to the point where it was removed altogether.

I see no difference in this case because in the scheme of things there is no such thing as playing "fair" when the game itself offers way too many avenues to try and cheese out a victory, with spamming, mindless Brit simcity, using bike/jeeps to push infantry...etc.

I'm not introducing any mods or hacks so why the hell should I or anyone else be banned for playing the game in the state that Relic delivered it? You guys are directing your anger/menopause at the messenger and not the source.

I'm not doing it for a stat boost, I just think it's incredibly hilarious and I really cannot help it if all I need to do is drive at the enemy.

lol @ idiots calling me a "nazi boy" for dressing up my user profile on a CoH website in a German theme for a WWII RTS game....
27 Jun 2014, 22:37 PM
#150
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17891 | Subs: 8




Hence it was an exploit. Just because it was an intentional development decision made by the devs doesn't rule it out as being used as an exploit and being abused by some players to the point where it was removed altogether.

I see no difference in this case because in the scheme of things there is no such thing as playing "fair" when the game itself offers way too many avenues to try and cheese out a victory, with spamming, mindless Brit simcity, using bike/jeeps to push infantry...etc.

I'm not introducing any mods or hacks so why the hell should I or anyone else be banned for playing the game in the state that Relic delivered it? You guys are directing your anger/menopause at the messenger and not the source.

I'm not doing it for a stat boost, I just think it's incredibly hilarious and I really cannot help it if all I need to do is drive at the enemy.

lol @ idiots calling me a "nazi boy" for dressing up my user profile on a CoH website in a German theme for a WWII RTS game....


In that case, old MG42, old ger pin plane that killed everything, old opel, old G43+LMG combo, old german vet2 on armor, old 251 flame HT and so on and so forth were also exploits by following your "logic"(quote marks, because its mad mans blabbering really, not a logic).

And don't rage at people for calling you what you are.
27 Jun 2014, 22:43 PM
#151
avatar of Thunderhun

Posts: 1617

Destroy your own OKW's truck if you don't need any more bases for salvage, now that's an exploit of the game and it works.
27 Jun 2014, 23:01 PM
#152
avatar of Death's Head

Posts: 440

jump backJump back to quoted post27 Jun 2014, 22:37 PMKatitof


In that case, old MG42, old ger pin plane that killed everything, old opel, old G43+LMG combo, old german vet2 on armor, old 251 flame HT and so on and so forth were also exploits by following your "logic"(quote marks, because its mad mans blabbering really, not a logic).

And don't rage at people for calling you what you are.


Oh yes, you are definitely the authority on "logic" and "reason" around here aren't you? Don't make me laugh katitof.

Anyways I only stated truths. MG42 was abused, it was fixed. LVL 45 German commander was abused, it was fixed. G43, Vet2 Panther, PIV...all subsequently fixed. KV-2 however? Not yet but thats okay.

In fact I am doing my civic duty of abusing the hell out of this bug so that it DOES get fixed! I should get a medal really. :rolleyes:
28 Jun 2014, 11:54 AM
#153
avatar of Cyridius

Posts: 627


lol @ idiots calling me a "nazi boy" for dressing up my user profile on a CoH website in a German theme for a WWII RTS game....


The SS Totenkopf Death's Head isn't a "German theme", it is a very specifically Nazi icon, and these guys are kind of responsible for genocide of 12 million people. It's not like you're sporting an Iron Cross, which is still even used today by the German army, or even just general Wehrmacht imagery. You're using an extremely specific Nazi icon that represents some of the most fanatical believers in Nazi ideology.

Oh, and really, you don't know what "abuse" or "exploit" is.
28 Jun 2014, 12:21 PM
#154
avatar of xeno

Posts: 82

I must say I miss the truck a bit. I had so much fun crushing people into rage-mode. Now when ISU was clearly abused for 2-3 months, with no soviet player ever stopping emself, at least Relic could have given me a whole week with the good ol' truck.
29 Jun 2014, 01:38 AM
#155
avatar of Death's Head

Posts: 440



The SS Totenkopf Death's Head isn't a "German theme", it is a very specifically Nazi icon, and these guys are kind of responsible for genocide of 12 million people. It's not like you're sporting an Iron Cross, which is still even used today by the German army, or even just general Wehrmacht imagery. You're using an extremely specific Nazi icon that represents some of the most fanatical believers in Nazi ideology.


You are absolutely clueless. It's not the "SS Totenkopf Death's Head", because it was neither created by the SS nor does it have any inherently racist/political meaning behind it. The Death's Head insignia has been used by German/Prussian military units for hundreds of years before the Nazi Party was formed. Knowing what you are talking about goes a long way.

Oh, and really, you don't know what "abuse" or "exploit" is.


Oh really? Care to elaborate on that opinion or are you content with mouthing simple-minded, empty responses like these?

29 Jun 2014, 02:50 AM
#156
avatar of elchino7
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Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2

Exploit: taking advantage of a bug, glitch, whatever falency on the game engine.
Abuse: usage of the "op" unit.

Abuse: M3 + sniper, clowncar, "maxim spam", ISU, Strafin pin, MG 10% supression, etc.
Exploit: FHQ for free, truck crush/push, Puppchen 1 shot 1 kill, German Radio intercept (trolol), "free squads with salvage", etc.
29 Jun 2014, 11:04 AM
#157
avatar of simpelekees
Patrion 310

Posts: 159

we can still use the truck to destroy cover, which gives volks and mg34s advantage.
29 Jun 2014, 11:07 AM
#158
avatar of Jaigen

Posts: 1130



The SS Totenkopf Death's Head isn't a "German theme", it is a very specifically Nazi icon, and these guys are kind of responsible for genocide of 12 million people. It's not like you're sporting an Iron Cross, which is still even used today by the German army, or even just general Wehrmacht imagery. You're using an extremely specific Nazi icon that represents some of the most fanatical believers in Nazi ideology.

Oh, and really, you don't know what "abuse" or "exploit" is.


I could say your avatar is not much better and the organisations it represents caused even more deaths.
29 Jun 2014, 12:49 PM
#159
avatar of Cyridius

Posts: 627



You are absolutely clueless. It's not the "SS Totenkopf Death's Head", because it was neither created by the SS nor does it have any inherently racist/political meaning behind it. The Death's Head insignia has been used by German/Prussian military units for hundreds of years before the Nazi Party was formed. Knowing what you are talking about goes a long way.



I'm very much not clueless. That specific insignia in your avatar was used by SS Totenkopf. I frankly don't give a fuck that you're using it, have the Nazi flag for all I care. Though the last person that did that got permabanned from. Can't even look at the site, last I heard.

And saying that Death's Head doesn't have any inherent political meaning is like saying planting a flaming cross in a black man's front yard doesn't mean anything either.

I don't really give a fuck if you're a Nazi fanboy, I'm an out and out Socialist so I know what it's like to have a demonized ideology, but dear god have the balls to admit that your avatar is specifically done with SS Totenkopf in mind.

I could say your avatar is not much better and the organisations it represents caused even more deaths.


The Communist Party of Ireland, while Marxist-Leninist and supporters of the USSR, had nothing to do with Stalin's so-called "Socialist" regime. I'm no apologist for Uncle Joe, but who specifically caused a lot of the deaths under his reign of terror is highly suspect. Were the famines because of his collectivization policies or were they because the Kulaks burned all the crops and killed all the livestock out of spite?

Anyways, this thread has gotten WAY off basis here. But it's not like it's relevant anymore with the exploit having been fixed and all.
29 Jun 2014, 19:37 PM
#160
avatar of DarthBong420

Posts: 381



I'm very much not clueless. That specific insignia in your avatar was used by SS Totenkopf. I frankly don't give a fuck that you're using it, have the Nazi flag for all I care. Though the last person that did that got permabanned from. Can't even look at the site, last I heard.

And saying that Death's Head doesn't have any inherent political meaning is like saying planting a flaming cross in a black man's front yard doesn't mean anything either.

I don't really give a fuck if you're a Nazi fanboy, I'm an out and out Socialist so I know what it's like to have a demonized ideology, but dear god have the balls to admit that your avatar is specifically done with SS Totenkopf in mind.



The Communist Party of Ireland, while Marxist-Leninist and supporters of the USSR, had nothing to do with Stalin's so-called "Socialist" regime. I'm no apologist for Uncle Joe, but who specifically caused a lot of the deaths under his reign of terror is highly suspect. Were the famines because of his collectivization policies or were they because the Kulaks burned all the crops and killed all the livestock out of spite?

Anyways, this thread has gotten WAY off basis here. But it's not like it's relevant anymore with the exploit having been fixed and all.

Your an idiot. You judge people with the totenkampf, but have a communist emblem? You yourself say you are an Irish Commie. I say you are scum. I say that being a fucking dirty commie in modern society is equally evil/retarded as shaving your head and seig heil a Hitler poster. Communism is as evil as Nazism or capitalism. Don't think because you are an Irish Commie that your political system is so fucking great and you get excluded from sharing in on answering for what that political party has done. Thats like saying American Neo Nazis are fine and that we should have some on this site with their symbols.

I'm 100% sure that the people on here with SS or Nazi avatars are NOT skinheads, if they were they were, there would be alot of hate shit talk from them. Its dirty leftist scum that comes on here looking for people to fight with over ideology.
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