Sniper Balance
4 Mar 2014, 08:22 AM
#161
Posts: 194
Scout car actually does not do too bad since the new patch moved guards/shocks to 2cp again...
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4 Mar 2014, 10:48 AM
#162
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Not to mention that Scout car HP is very low and its damage against snipers is poor.
That would be great if Relic increase MP cost of scout car and increase the damage against snipers in order to be able to kill them with 2-3 burst from far distance. that would make snipers retreat.
Is that possible? I was under the impression that everything was just as it appears, no modifiers or hidden advantages from one unit to the next. Like in CoH, Combat Engineers could beat Panzer Grenadiers, but Panzer Grenadiers could still take on Riflemen effectively. I don't think you can do that in CoH2, specific Armour types seem to have been removed in favour of a flat number system.
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4 Mar 2014, 11:47 AM
#163
Posts: 410
It should be possible. Without this kind of modifiers, it will be impossible to balance the game or make it less dependant on RNG.
It is supposed that Coh2 was going to be better than Coh1... If what you are telling me is true... this game is more likely to Starcraft2 instead of Coh1
It is supposed that Coh2 was going to be better than Coh1... If what you are telling me is true... this game is more likely to Starcraft2 instead of Coh1
4 Mar 2014, 12:18 PM
#164
Posts: 1701
Scout car actually does not do too bad since the new patch moved guards/shocks to 2cp again...
Research AT nade easily, and there you go. You have mobile light-anti-scout cars-halftracks
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4 Mar 2014, 13:55 PM
#165
Posts: 194
Research AT nade easily, and there you go. You have mobile light-anti-scout cars-halftracks
Sure. But still it was way worse before.
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4 Mar 2014, 14:36 PM
#166
Posts: 21
Great idea! and it would allow the 221/222 and M3 to get some changes!
would absolutely love to see this unit as a counter to soviets being op in general
4 Mar 2014, 15:54 PM
#167
Posts: 194
Dude, do you even eselschreck?!
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4 Mar 2014, 17:22 PM
#168
Posts: 1701
^HAAHAH xDDD
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4 Mar 2014, 19:45 PM
#169
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Would it be possible to exchange the AC for Ost with a unit in T1 to give them a way to stop multiple sniper spam (maybe move mortar to T2 or sniper)? The cost on the AC could remain unchanged forcing the Ost player to slow tech to T2 and therefore lmg's as a tradeoff. In addition, it would still allow snipers but punish multiple snipers since without conscripts in support it would be easy pickings. It would also give the AC more use since its window of usefulness would be wider without being OP.
Another option new commander with Schwimwagen at 0cp, only $10.
Another option new commander with Schwimwagen at 0cp, only $10.
4 Mar 2014, 20:00 PM
#170
Posts: 1701
More pay2win? ffs just replace T1 Mortar with SC as you said and everything will be fine I think.
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4 Mar 2014, 20:20 PM
#171
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I actually like the idea of moving the SC to T1!
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4 Mar 2014, 20:49 PM
#172
Posts: 878
How about fake grenadiers? You could put one up in the middle of Langraskaya, can't detect them as fake unless up close, sniper takes shots, you can countersnipe or flank as you so desire.
I'm only semi-kidding. I think it's pretty broken and hard to fix given how they designed the snipers. You need to get lucky or have the Soviet player screw-up, that's all there is to it.
The halftrack is the only thing that will let you stay on the field and fight.
Scout car in T1 would need fuel cost increase, otherwise it will be spammed and force conscripts off the field before AT nades can be upgraded. Remember the PE scout car spam patch in vCOH? It was a good time.
I'm only semi-kidding. I think it's pretty broken and hard to fix given how they designed the snipers. You need to get lucky or have the Soviet player screw-up, that's all there is to it.
The halftrack is the only thing that will let you stay on the field and fight.
Scout car in T1 would need fuel cost increase, otherwise it will be spammed and force conscripts off the field before AT nades can be upgraded. Remember the PE scout car spam patch in vCOH? It was a good time.
4 Mar 2014, 21:03 PM
#173
Posts: 1701
Why not just increase MP to 200 or so? and keep the fuel at 20?
And of course more health I guess
And of course more health I guess
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4 Mar 2014, 21:07 PM
#174
Posts: 2779
T1 sdkwf 221 cost 200 MP 0 fuel
Upgrade to 222 unlock in T2
Happy 5 SC start come back to life.
Upgrade to 222 unlock in T2
Happy 5 SC start come back to life.
4 Mar 2014, 21:08 PM
#175
Posts: 1595 | Subs: 2
Scout car should be faster, have the health of a P4, and be one shot kill with the auto cannon upgrade.
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4 Mar 2014, 21:36 PM
#176
Posts: 21
Scout car should be faster, have the health of a P4, and be one shot kill with the auto cannon upgrade.
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finally someone with a little sense in there
+1
4 Mar 2014, 21:54 PM
#177
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4 Mar 2014, 22:24 PM
#178
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I would not be against a slight price increase if AC was moved to T1, that would help prevent spamming and always forcing Soviets to go guards.
4 Mar 2014, 23:05 PM
#179
Posts: 194
lol 
no pls don't do that...
no pls don't do that...
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6 Mar 2014, 11:58 AM
#180
Posts: 503
Permanently BannedSoviet sniper -> star wars...
Oh and that car with bi turbo V12 of the soviet's, in real word they don't make nothing good, but that car is for special drag race!
And they put flames, sniper's on it! Great job!
Oh and that car with bi turbo V12 of the soviet's, in real word they don't make nothing good, but that car is for special drag race!
And they put flames, sniper's on it! Great job!
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