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19 Nov 2019, 18:22 PM
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I'm currently trying to make sense out of the replay files from the World Championship. I do this with a program that I wrote a couple of years ago that uses Inverse's vault to interpret the replay files and then have a Fortran program reading that reading the results and puts together the statistics.

Now, the info I get from the replay file is basically that a player build a certain unit with a certain ID or calls in stuff with another ID. The program uses a list of these IDs to identify them as MG42, Volksgrenadiers, Fragmentation Bombs or whatnot.

Every time I used the program for a tourney I had to amend these lists for changes or new units that the previous patches brought. And given that I haven't used this since GSC2, I found there are a lot of "unknown" things in the replay files.

Now, the only way to find out what a certain ID means that I know of currently is to fire up Coh2 and watch the replay up until the point when the unit/building/ability/upgrade in question is called up and check what the player actually did. That's kind of awkward and I'm a bit tied for time right now. And then I need to find the proper graphic for that thing if it makes it into the statistics...

Is there something in the Modding tools where I can get this information more easily?
19 Nov 2019, 19:50 PM
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Ask Inverse to get off his ass and update cohdb.com :snfCHVGame::snfCHVGame:
19 Nov 2019, 20:52 PM
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Is 15 the ID from the MG42? and 2224 the ID of the Tiger Ace? In that case it is the 'pbgid' of the files in attribute editor. If you can send me the list of unknown ID's, then I would gladly help to map them on these files.
20 Nov 2019, 16:09 PM
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Is 15 the ID from the MG42? and 2224 the ID of the Tiger Ace? In that case it is the 'pbgid' of the files in attribute editor. If you can send me the list of unknown ID's, then I would gladly help to map them on these files.


Thanks, I'll send you a PM.

Edit:
Ah, right, that doesn't work...

So, yes, 15 for MG42 correct, I can't say if 2224 for Tiger Ace is, though. The last time I did this, the Tiger Ace was a call in, and it got called in by a commander ability with its own ID. But I guess this is the correct place to check.

Ok, unknown stuff:

Commanders:
452452 (Okw)
452454 (OH)
452455 (UKF)
452461 (SOV)

Units:
176136 (OKW)
188579 (OH)

"Buildings":
190607 (Soviets)

Upgrades:
17489 (OKW)
174604 (USF)
176667 (OKW)
176676 (OKW)
177704 (USF)
177705 (USF)
177707 (USF)
187724 (Sov)
188316 (OH)
196547 (OKW)
10741832 (SOV)

Commander ability:
174605 (USF)
174957 (SOV)
188754 (OKW)
188828 (UKF)
190360 (OKW)

Ok, there are probably more, but let's try out these for starters :P

20 Nov 2019, 16:37 PM
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Is 15 the ID from the MG42? and 2224 the ID of the Tiger Ace? In that case it is the 'pbgid' of the files in attribute editor. If you can send me the list of unknown ID's, then I would gladly help to map them on these files.


For a cross-check:

Example for a commander ability: 16735 would be the "105 mm Howitzer Barrage"

For an upgrade: For some reason they appear in two different commands in the replays, I have not found out yet what the rule is why one appear in one and not the other. But to give examples of both: 137 are the Schrecks for PGs, 157 would be the pintle mount on a StuG-G.

Buildings: 1473 would be OH's T1, 3197 an M5 Mine.
20 Nov 2019, 17:46 PM
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Hey, so I found the matches for the IDs you provided. And indeed your IDs are equal to the pbgid in the AE but for the commanders, your IDs are equal to their server_id.

Commanders:
452452 (Okw) - Grand Offensive Doctrine
452454 (OH) - Strategic Reserves Doctrine
452455 (UKF) - Lend Lease Assault Regiment
452461 (SOV) - Airborne Troops Tactics

Units:
176136 (OKW) - Sd.Kfz. 221 Scout Car
188579 (OH) - Panzer IV Ausf. J Medium Tank

Buildings:
190607 (Soviets) - Sandbag Fighting Position

Upgrades:
17489 (OKW) - Panzer Commander
174604 (USF) - Thomson SMG Package
176667 (OKW) - FuG 12 Radio Set
176676 (OKW) - G43 Sniper Rifle
177704 (USF) - Unlock Mechanized Platoon Command Post
177705 (USF) - Unlock Mechanized Company Command Post
177707 (USF)- M1918A2 Browning Automatic Rifle
187724 (Sov) - Mobilize Reserves
188316 (OH) - Pioneer Support Package
196547 (OKW) - Panzer Authorization
10741832 (SOV) - PTRS 41 AT Rifle

Commander ability:
174605 (USF) - Cavalry Riflemen
174957 (SOV) - Anti-Tank Overwatch
188754 (OKW) - Tiger PzKpfw VI
188828 (UKF) - M5 Half-track Transport
190360 (OKW) - Smoke Bombs
20 Nov 2019, 18:06 PM
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Hey, so I found the matches for the IDs you provided. And indeed your IDs are equal to the pbgid in the AE but for the commanders, your IDs are equal to their server_id.


Awesome, thanks!
20 Nov 2019, 18:45 PM
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Final batch (hopefully):

Commander:
452456

Unit:
176860

Commander ability:
188016
188023
188210

Upgrades:
176839
176842
177707
188750
188818
190828
196592
20 Nov 2019, 21:13 PM
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It would be really helpful if I would know the faction. Could you provide that information?
20 Nov 2019, 22:00 PM
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Final batch (hopefully):

Got it :)

Commander:
452456 = Urban Assault Company (USF)

Unit:
176860 = 250 Halftrack

Commander ability:
Sov:
188016 = Paradrop DShK HMG
188023 = Airdropped Weapons
188210 = Tactical IL-2 Sturmovik Rocket Run

Upgrades:
Wehr:
176839 = Veteran Squad Leader (Grenadier)
176842 = Veteran Squad Leader (Pioneer)
188750 = 2x Panzerschreck (Panzer Grenadier)
137 is now used for the 2x Panzerschreck upgrade on the Panzerfusiliers.
190828 = Veteran Squad Leader (Assault Grenadier)
USF:
177707 = BAR (Lieutenant)
UKF:
188818 = AA package (UKF M5)
OKW:
196592 = 2x FG42
21 Nov 2019, 09:13 AM
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Thanks again, guys!
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