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by kitsos 6th October 2019, 23:50 PM
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6 Oct 2019, 23:50 PM
#1
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Weekend matchmaking, populated hours: 2381 rank teammates, 355 rank opponents. I get this matchmaking 85% of the times no matter of the number of players that are online.
7 Oct 2019, 10:47 AM
#2
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 23:50 PMkitsos
Weekend matchmaking, populated hours: 2381 rank teammates, 355 rank opponents. I get this matchmaking 85% of the times no matter of the number of players that are online.


That's working as intended .
7 Oct 2019, 12:06 PM
#3
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 23:50 PMkitsos
Weekend matchmaking, populated hours: 2381 rank teammates, 355 rank opponents. I get this matchmaking 85% of the times no matter of the number of players that are online.


The chance for balanced matchmaking is the biggest if you play during the EU primetime ~15-21 o'clock Central European Time.


Playing at NA primetime or during the morning hours = complete gamble with matchmaking
12 Oct 2019, 09:29 AM
#4
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 23:50 PMkitsos


well it does not only happens to you.

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13 Oct 2019, 07:50 AM
#5
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well it does not only happens to you.

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I dropped for this from 1 to 7!


I never claimed that it happens only to me, whole mechanic of matchmaking is unfair. I had 11 matches in a row yesterday which was Saturday against top 200 opponents; with top 1000 teammates. From 125 rank OKW; I dropped to to 800...I have every single replay if you dont believe. I only wish I could carry my low rank teammates against top players.
13 Oct 2019, 09:28 AM
#6
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Oct 2019, 07:50 AMkitsos

I only wish I could carry my low rank teammates against top players.


Thats the point in random ranks :)
If you are highrnaked in random teamgames means 2 things:

- you are sometimes lucky with matchmaking
- you are able to carry some noob player to a certain level of skill.
13 Oct 2019, 13:57 PM
#7
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"you are able to carry some noob player to a certain level of skill" .



Hey bro I think that is a bit too stressful since 90% of the time the random noob team mate just wont listen to you or doesnt understand what you are trying to tell him and it is in our best interest to win the match.

If it is some chinese player, then youre chance of trying to coordinate him is like this game's RNG.
13 Oct 2019, 14:29 PM
#8
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Oct 2019, 13:57 PMVIGNASH



Hey bro I think that is a bit too stressful since 90% of the time the random noob team mate just wont listen to you or doesnt understand what you are trying to tell him and it is in our best interest to win the match.

If it is some chinese player, then youre chance of trying to coordinate him is like this game's RNG.


you carry someone on the battlefield, and not in the chat. So basically you have to play so extremely well that it compensates for the crazy bullshit that your teammates are doing.
13 Oct 2019, 15:53 PM
#9
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you carry someone on the battlefield, and not in the chat. So basically you have to play so extremely well that it compensates for the crazy bullshit that your teammates are doing.


I gotta quote D Trump on this, "Sounds good, doesn't work!".

Just today I got myself into this 2v2 match where me lvl 13 OKW with my team m8 lvl 14 OKW vs two allies who i found out were lvl 18. We fought them well and the match went past 20 mins into mid game where my team m8 lost all of his infantry. He simply couldnt keep up with the micro against them. But, i was able to do well and give a solid fight, just need an atleast decent team m8.
13 Oct 2019, 19:41 PM
#10
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Oct 2019, 15:53 PMVIGNASH


I gotta quote D Trump on this, "Sounds good, doesn't work!".

Just today I got myself into this 2v2 match where me lvl 13 OKW with my team m8 lvl 14 OKW vs two allies who i found out were lvl 18. We fought them well and the match went past 20 mins into mid game where my team m8 lost all of his infantry. He simply couldnt keep up with the micro against them. But, i was able to do well and give a solid fight, just need an atleast decent team m8.


Of course there are matches that you can't win no matter how well you play.... even if you would play like a god. But those are around 1 in 20 maybe. In many games it's possible to compensate for unfair matchmaking, for example if you squash the opponent on your side and then flank the other side to help your team.

"Doing alright on your side" is not enough to win an unfair match
13 Oct 2019, 21:46 PM
#11
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With carry I mean ingame as aerafield said. Hold your side is not enough. You need to help other side out or hold /winning vs2.
You can try chatting with like :a kattja would be awesome or defend middle ignore left side. But most cases don't type.
14 Oct 2019, 02:46 AM
#12
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With carry I mean ingame as aerafield said. Hold your side is not enough. You need to help other side out or hold /winning vs2.
You can try chatting with like :a kattja would be awesome or defend middle ignore left side. But most cases don't type.


Thanks for your suggestions guys @Sturmpanther and @aerafield !
17 Oct 2019, 02:50 AM
#13
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Of course there are matches that you can't win no matter how well you play.... even if you would play like a god. But those are around 1 in 20 maybe. In many games it's possible to compensate for unfair matchmaking, for example if you squash the opponent on your side and then flank the other side to help your team.

"Doing alright on your side" is not enough to win an unfair match



Exactly that is how I do it as well you crush your enemy your side then you rotate to your mate side and do the same thing there , also it does help their mental quite a bit when you tell them pios down gren down etc..
17 Oct 2019, 02:51 AM
#14
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With carry I mean ingame as aerafield said. Hold your side is not enough. You need to help other side out or hold /winning vs2.
You can try chatting with like :a kattja would be awesome or defend middle ignore left side. But most cases don't type.


Typing to say that one or multiple units are dead is great I think, it inform your mate of the fact and give them some hope ^
17 Oct 2019, 12:22 PM
#15
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Oct 2019, 02:51 AMKobal


Typing to say that one or multiple units are dead is great I think, it inform your mate of the fact and give them some hope ^


+1
20 Oct 2019, 09:07 AM
#16
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2 things:

#1: stop playing teamgames, play 1v1 or 2v2 instead

#2: the 4v4 mode should've never existed at all. It's from a different Era of RTS games
20 Oct 2019, 11:50 AM
#17
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2 things:

#1: stop playing teamgames, play 1v1 or 2v2 instead

#2: the 4v4 mode should've never existed at all. It's from a different Era of RTS games


2 things:

#1 2v2 is a teamgame mode as well you ding dong, with the same matchmaking algorithm. The last time I played 2v2 random last month I searched for 1 minute and got a rank 1200 teammate vs 20, 70.

#2 yeah lets remove the gamemode(s) with by far the biggest playerbase. This will be very healthy for the game population
20 Oct 2019, 21:34 PM
#18
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2 things:

#1 2v2 is a teamgame mode as well you ding dong, with the same matchmaking algorithm. The last time I played 2v2 random last month I searched for 1 minute and got a rank 1200 teammate vs 20, 70.

2# yeah lets remove the gamemode(s) with by far the biggest playerbase. This will be very healthy for the game population


Lol
26 Oct 2019, 20:14 PM
#19
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 23:50 PMkitsos


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9 Nov 2019, 18:45 PM
#20
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Awesome right?^^
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you just confirm my words...
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