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G2 ESL EU Finals

by MajorBloodnok 3rd April 2016, 00:49 AM
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3 Apr 2016, 00:49 AM
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It's the Finals. You have won G1 as Axis.

Luvnest is going Axis. So what do you pick: Soviets or USF? Britz in 1v1? That's like asking for a an early bath. Right?
3 Apr 2016, 01:30 AM
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It's the Finals. You have won G1 as Axis.

Luvnest is going Axis. So what do you pick: Soviets or USF? Britz in 1v1? That's like asking for a an early bath. Right?


Got to represent :p. Kind of fitting that the last match was a Brit playing Brits and a German playing the Germans.
3 Apr 2016, 09:39 AM
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Well deserved Hans! gg's.
3 Apr 2016, 09:45 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post3 Apr 2016, 09:39 AMSpanky
Well deserved Hans! gg's.


Thank you Spanky :).
3 Apr 2016, 10:01 AM
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It's the Finals. You have won G1 as Axis.

Luvnest is going Axis. So what do you pick: Soviets or USF? Britz in 1v1? That's like asking for a an early bath. Right?


and why you think brits are bad in 1v1? they have strongest infantry and easy access to counter snipe :snfBarton:
3 Apr 2016, 22:13 PM
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and why you think brits are bad in 1v1? they have strongest infantry and easy access to counter snipe :snfBarton:


Strong in 1v1 or not, everyone else was just spamming soviets, so it was refreshing someone was willing to use Brits seriously.
6 Apr 2016, 05:39 AM
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7 Apr 2016, 04:58 AM
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I respect you as a player hans but using brits plus land matress made it easy. Kudos to luv for trying
8 Apr 2016, 14:40 PM
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I respect you as a player hans but using brits plus land matress made it easy. Kudos to luv for trying


There's always a few that want to take away the legitimacy of my win. Luvnest could have done exactly the same thing if he wanted to but did not. Are you going to say that I used a OP strategy with Ostheer as well? Please. :rofl:
15 Apr 2016, 08:35 AM
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i dont care about factions . i just liked the game play i think that only thing is matter . GG WP
15 Apr 2016, 19:48 PM
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You used Land Mattress? Ugh.

That unit in its current form shouldn't be let anywhere near competitive play. It's as bad as the Tiger Ace was on release.
15 Apr 2016, 20:52 PM
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15 Apr 2016, 23:16 PM
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You used Land Mattress? Ugh.

That unit in its current form shouldn't be let anywhere near competitive play. It's as bad as the Tiger Ace was on release.


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15 Apr 2016, 23:45 PM
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The Land Mattress should require 2 or 3 more CP's and 30-40 more fuel. But most players still struggled to win with Brits in the tournament. And besides, for $1300 I expect all the available abuse to be abused TBH.
16 Apr 2016, 00:25 AM
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Correct me if I´m wrong, but in every match, the allies player could have won easily if he just would have chosen soviet and abused/spammed the hell out of maxims/T70´s. (<-- watch the final games of NA March Finals and you know what I mean). But fortunately, all players in EU tournament cared about their gameplay-aesthetics, and we saw just beautiful and brilliant strategies everywhere:banana:. I´ve seen so many people who said "Hans won the final match with p2w only!", but this is just wrong, besides that the big majority of his strat was excellent micromanagement. It is not fair to say that because he used 1 unit which is broken af at the moment. ADDITIONALLY, the British Forces don´t have access to decent artillery (Saxton sucks) except the land matress, so what you wanna do if you need arty???
16 Apr 2016, 00:53 AM
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Correct me if I´m wrong, but in every match, the allies player could have won easily if he just would have chosen soviet and abused/spammed the hell out of maxims/T70´s. (<-- watch the final games of NA March Finals and you know what I mean). But fortunately, all players in EU tournament cared about their gameplay-aesthetics, and we saw just beautiful and brilliant strategies everywhere:banana:. I´ve seen so many people who said "Hans won the final match with p2w only!", but this is just wrong, besides that the big majority of his strat was excellent micromanagement. It is not fair to say that because he used 1 unit which is broken af at the moment. ADDITIONALLY, the British Forces don´t have access to decent artillery (Saxton sucks) except the land matress, so what you wanna do if you need arty???


In my opinion maxim spam is over and done with, and really works only as cheese. Not a tournament level strat but something you can try to win games quick in matchmaking where people aren't expecting it and can get overrun by the mass, like volk spam or something like that.

I haven't followed the NA scene after ESL but few streams that I've watched it seems like they've realized how to play vs. maxim spam effectively, and that's the point about cheese. You might get easy wins at first but if the player knows how to play vs. your cheese you can't win without changing your strategy.

Really what I'm saying here it's not like EU valiantly stopped maxim spamming because it was too easy, but because it didn't work anymore.



Or who knows I'm drunk and it's 4am
16 Apr 2016, 02:10 AM
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Nah VonIvan won with maxim spam till the very end, difference is that he used Partisans to ambush the light vehicles and capitalise on other opportunities. A very all-in early game strategy but it worked out most of the time. Whereas the European players usually went for doctrines with call-in tanks / T34-85.
16 Apr 2016, 04:49 AM
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Regardless, this is an important tournament where you would do whatever you could to achieve victory. You didn't see Aimstrong stop using centaurs, or VonIvan stop using maxims because they were OP did you? I mean come on.
16 Apr 2016, 04:56 AM
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Correct me if I´m wrong, but in every match, the allies player could have won easily if he just would have chosen soviet and abused/spammed the hell out of maxims/T70´s. (<-- watch the final games of NA March Finals and you know what I mean). But fortunately, all players in EU tournament cared about their gameplay-aesthetics, and we saw just beautiful and brilliant strategies everywhere:banana:. I´ve seen so many people who said "Hans won the final match with p2w only!", but this is just wrong, besides that the big majority of his strat was excellent micromanagement. It is not fair to say that because he used 1 unit which is broken af at the moment. ADDITIONALLY, the British Forces don´t have access to decent artillery (Saxton sucks) except the land matress, so what you wanna do if you need arty???


Thanks Aerafield. It's like some people conveniently forget that I beat Lunest's Soviets which he recently had a 90 + something streak on until recently.
16 Apr 2016, 05:48 AM
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OMG Hans, it's only 1000 euro and the second biggest tournament ever, why are you so heartless?

You didn't even think about using Royal Artillery Regiment, for shame.
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