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Thread: PTRS now OP?4 Apr 2015, 14:16 PM Ok, so i found out that the PTRS doesn't actually target the support weapon itself when it shoots at it, the reason why it damages support weapons is because shots that missed are likely to scatter into the gun itself. Which is also why a PTRS shot that rolled a "miss" can still end up hitting the target due to the way scatter works. Also, the PTRS always has been destroying support weapons like this. Only that before nobody was blobbing PTRS units like mad. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PTRS now OP?4 Apr 2015, 11:13 AM Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2015, 10:13 AMdasheepeh You do understand that a blob coming up an mg the way it was presented in Porygons video couldnt do anything to the mg without the ptrs? That the mg was working as intended? But no, beware, here comes the script ptrs blob and doesnt give a fuck about its hardcounter and doesnt just decrew, but also wrecks it permanently. You really, really cant tell me that this is fine. Hell, they even hit the MG when suppressed. 100% sure you would complain if this happened on the axis side. Am i saying this is fine? No, it's not fine. Infact , this is a problem with ALL mgs. Funny people mention this, because right now, a 30 munitions grenade will 100% force a maxim to retreat, all the time. Sure the maxim will win the engagement vs a gren 1v1, but it will drop 2-3 models and be forced to retreat. 2 grenadiers + 60 munitions hard counters a maxim. 4 conscript blobs without PTRS also counter an mg, just molotov it. Obersoldaten and paratroopers give zero fucks about mgs. That blob was by far not the worst thing. The blob of 4 cons with PTRS costs 200 munitions. And they don't just destroy the gun like PTRS cons, they steal it if you aren't paying attention. Anywayas, this can easily be fixed by making the PTRS target the crew. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PTRS now OP?4 Apr 2015, 09:46 AM Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2015, 09:45 AMSeeker However, when a Molotov is thrown you can get away, PTRS blobs can melt it, if the weapon dies all 4 crew die at once, not 1 by 1, that is the OP part. Dude, it took like 40 seconds for that mg to get destroyed, there was plenty of time ot react. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PTRS now OP?4 Apr 2015, 09:43 AM Jump back to quoted post4 Apr 2015, 09:38 AMdasheepeh its mindblowing that there are people defending the ptrs wrecking manned support weapons. CoH2 is roughly based on a scissor - rock - paper system, but things get wrong if a scissor suddenly counters the rock, if you know what i mean. A blob roaming around not only being able to kill the crew, but to actually wreck the gun itself is NOT FINE. And it doesnt matter if its a soviet or usf blob. Just because OKW could blob up schrecks doesnt justify the BS that is happening now on the soviet side. You should care about the balance as a whole and not just about your preferred side. This means playing the game and widening your horizon. Because its very narrow for some people. You do understand that a blob of 4 cons without PTRS would just molotov the lone MG and steal it? So destroying the support weapons goes both ways. Only difference is that once a player sees a molotov being thrown at his MG, he retreats, however, when they see a blob of PTRS cons shooting at them, they don't retreat, and therefore lose the gun. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: PTRS now OP?4 Apr 2015, 08:44 AM Well, if the DPS of the PTRS is indeed 4.992 4.16 1.8304, then it is completely fine. Except againts weapon teams. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T34/76 should get a slight buff3 Apr 2015, 22:25 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2015, 22:21 PMAlexzandvar PIV: Scatter angle: 7.5 Scatter distance: 6.4 AoE radius: 2.5 AoE far: 1.875 AoE mid: 1.25 AoE near: 0.75 T34: Scatter angle: 7.5 Scatter distance: 6.9 AoE radius: 2.5 AoE far: 1.875 AoE mid: 1.25 AoE near: 0.625 Sherman 75 standard AP: Scatter angle: 6.0 Scatter distance: 6.2 AoE radius: 2.0 AoE far: 1.5 AoE mid: 1.0 AoE near: 0.5 That's okay, but it's cost would need to be raised. The PIV is 25 fuel more expensive because it's a better tank. Alright, apparently i was wrong,sorry. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: T34/76 should get a slight buff3 Apr 2015, 22:15 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2015, 22:13 PMAlexzandvar The T34/76 has almost exactly the same accuracy as the PIV. We don't need to return to the days of the T34 sniping squads. The Sherman has the best accuracy out of all of the basic mediums, but it deserves it IMO as it has less AoE than the others. A buff would need to mean it's cost be raised. Stop talking nonsense. The PIV has significantly lower scatter than the t-34/76 6.9 vs 5.7 i believe. The sherman has the highest AOE of all the tanks with HE rounds.... Sherman with AP rounds and no 0.50 cal is better againts infantry than the t-34/76... In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: PTRS now OP?3 Apr 2015, 22:03 PM However, keep in mind, that a 4 or whatever cons blob without PTRS wont destroy the weapon, they will just steal it. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T34/76 should get a slight buff3 Apr 2015, 21:53 PM It needs more accuracy againts infantry, it misses way too much compared to the PIV and sherman which cost very similar. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: PTRS now OP?3 Apr 2015, 20:41 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Apr 2015, 20:40 PMAlexzandvar The PTRS can't miss when hitting crew weapons, so the point is comparing blobs of Obers or Grens running into MG's and such versus blobs on cons running into MG's and such. does the PTRS target the weapons themselves instead of the crew? In: COH2 Balance