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Thread: WC 51 comes too late.13 Sep 2014, 13:12 PM So this thing got hit hard by the nerfhammer. The WC 51 was the only thing that mechanized company had going for. And now that's gone. The WC 51 comes like 1 minute earlier than a puma, or around the same time as a 222, both of which hard counter it. While you can get the M20 just a few seconds later, and it is twice at strong as the WC 51 pretty much. I think it needs to go back to 0 CP. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Russian IL2 bombing strike ineffective and slow13 Sep 2014, 13:04 PM Well, this thing oneshots pak43s and howitzres. So that's a thing. Also, i'm fairly sure it is still possible to land it if you button a tank, altho it's not as easy now, if a heavy drives over a mine it's also i think possible to land it. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: gaurds button12 Sep 2014, 19:06 PM So yeah, this ability is completely useless now, im not really sure why it was nerfed so hard, hardly anyone complained about it. So yeah, this ability just serves no purpose now, because it barely slows down the vehicle. It needs some kind of buff or something. And relic was talking about counterplay. What counterplay? Smoke already negated instantly. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Faction balance in 1v1 and 2v212 Sep 2014, 17:05 PM It's too early to say. In: Lobby
Thread: Faction balance in 1v1 and 2v212 Sep 2014, 17:00 PM right now in 1v1 balance i would say OKW > soviets = ostheer > USF. However this is just the general feeling i got, might be wrong, we must wait and see. In: Lobby
Thread: Conscripts post 9/9 patch11 Sep 2014, 20:44 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Sep 2014, 20:31 PMArray I don't wish to get into a WW2 argument on this site as virtually everyone including myself is an absolute WW2 nerd but come on - the Soviet union suffered at estimated 9 million dead and 20 million wounded or sick from its combat forces. Despite all the flack the single player campaign got and to be fair it was not representative of the entire war there were occasions where entire Soviet brigades were thrown away simply to hold the Germans up. German losses may have reached 6 million but only when attacked on all sides and overwhelmed by the 200 odd divisions the Soviets had hanging around after the Germans destroyed the first 120 The OKW faction in this game is built on the concept of grizzled veterans from the Eastern front being switched West for the battle of the Bulge, With allied troops you have more of a point but units like the 7th Armoured fought from North Africa to Berlin and the US had the Big Red One who undertook both Italian and then the Normandy landings because of their veterancy I'm fairly sure that the most aknowledged source is 1:1.3 casaulty ratio in favor of the germans, of course this also includes romanian and hungarian forces and what not, but they are still axis. The OKW concept in this game is historically bogus , german quality of troops was best in 1941, worse in 42, then worse in 43 and worse in 44 and so on. And what does exactly this throwing away of brigades mean? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Conscripts post 9/9 patch11 Sep 2014, 20:16 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Sep 2014, 20:12 PMArray Perhaps but as we know the soviet union didn't rely on unit preservation and veterancy to win, though of course I know that this is a fun arcade game not a historical re-enactment. The problem I see with your argument is that you think conscripts should be more like grens or volks and that way we lose the asymmetry. Cons will die in you charge them from long range at grens (no fun) so you have to make it fun by finding the other ways to play them - forcing the grens from cover with your mortars then oorahing them in - flanking with multiple cons squads over fences and round buildings, using true sight to ambush etc. An issue with this is the cost relative to grens - they are not cheap enough to be able to afford 2 con squads per gren but they would probably need to be nerfed even more to reduce their price so... To contradict some of what I have said the changes made the cons cause more dps at mid range than they did which makes me think they are also intended to be played in cover vs advancing infantry rather than having to always rush in close. This still fits with the concept of massed sub-standard troops as a strategy And which countries exactly relied on unit preservation and veterancy? Very few troops survived close combat, on both sides. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Conscripts post 9/9 patch11 Sep 2014, 20:04 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Sep 2014, 18:08 PMKatitof If you have a dump and take another dump next to it, the first one won't magically smell like flowers and turn into chocolate. You'll simply have 2 dumps. That is the situation of current soviet core infantry and with guards being battered as well, pretty much only mainline infantry soviets have that actually can fight are shock troops. Relic wants soviets to spam snipers and maxims. Hmm, yes but if volks and grenadiers were slightly nerfed and LMG 42 was slightly nerfed, means that penals were indirectly BUFFED. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ninja changes for 9.9 patch11 Sep 2014, 18:44 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Sep 2014, 18:41 PMCannonade Seems I falsely assumed the modifier applied to the weapon crews universally, since the crews otherwise have identical stats per faction. Anyways, I guess Relic knows what they are doing by adding it to Sov ATGs, even if some sov-fanbois will no doubt rip themselves two fresh new buttholes over this. No they don't and it was an unintended mistake. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Conscripts post 9/9 patch11 Sep 2014, 17:41 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Sep 2014, 17:18 PMMr. Someguy I find it hilarious that people keep talking about how great Penals are now. Penals didn't get changed at all. Yes,, but thing is all starting infantry kind of got a nerf, and penals were not changed, which makes penals indirectly somewhat better. In: COH2 Balance