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What is up with all these utter scrub threads just exploding after notes were released?

Pfaust is fine and so are any other snares.

If we make them a lot more legitimate combat units we should probably nerf their repair speed a bit too.

And then we should nerf RoyEs' repair speed because holy shit they're nuts.

No one uses them for repairs.

If there was one thing I'd change about them, it would be decreasing FP cost to 50 and adding remaining(up to current) with .50 cal upgrade, so utilizing their unique rifle nade is actually a reasonable choice instead of punishing waste.

Alright, please explain to me how you are not losing every single game then when volks atm are even weaker AI-wise, you don't have HMG in T0 and are equally AI dependent on doctrines or obers?

From your descriptions it won't be possible to play OKW with AI volks, makes me wonder how is it even possible for you to do it right now when they are even weaker in AI.

So in general you pretty much saying "Something cost more, then it should beat cheaper unit".

scrub pls

Why then vetted Grens with LMG can somehow stay vs rifles

Because muni upgrades add to units cost, making it stand up to more expensive one, just like ppsh cons can stand up to other inf to a point, just like grens can stand up to rifles, just like stg volks can stand up to rifles.

Why upgraded tommies can stand against Obersts

Again, because upgrades can make so.

Why vet 3 cons in competitive mod can beat vet 4 volks with STG ?

They can't unless they get lucky checked that many times.

Like really, this is really dumb logic saying that "Its cheaper it should lost".

Volks with StG suck with vet 0 and vet 5 no matter what really. There is litterally almost no reason to build them aside from faust spamming, but I think it would be better to just have 2x pios into mine spam.

This isn't dumb logic, but actual in game situation.
In fact, if there are 2 units of same role and one is more expensive then other, then more expensive one will end up on top.

Source:
Every single RTS game ever made.

There is also literally no reason to build cons except for AT nades.
Hell, if you think its better to get 2 spios and spam mines, by the RNJesus do so! You are no longer bound and condemned to spam volks!

Correct volks simply cant stand against other inf, suffering from the same soviet consripts problem, but the main difference is that soviets at least can get support weapons for their cons right of the bat, to hold the ground while Volks cant.

Vanila volks beat vanila cons.
Upgraded volks stand up to rifles at any range and will roflstomp tommies at med and short ranges.
And no, volks don't suffer from same issues as cons and won't as long as they will have stock weapon upgrade. And in case you haven't noticed, MG34 becomes stock and you have strongest engineer squad at the beginning of the game for your support.

You're exaggerating, but that is understandable from 4v4 one army only hero.

Also I see no reason saying that "depr volks are cheaper", because you hardly will overhelm 2 to 1 in any situation against soviets or USF, you can only overhelm brits. So usually it will be 2vs2 fights, where volks pretty much shooting popcorn instead of bullets.

Have you considered NOT spamming volks and actually using other options?
It might prove extremely helpful after next patch.
You're extremely close minded on new possible BOs, thats why you're so fixated on volks, who will be anything but weak post patch.

They shouldn't just have StG for "improving their AI", which wont be totaly shitty, but would be just shitty with StG. If they need improved AI, then it should be feelable improvements, not just ability to kill 2 models instead of 1 and then lose again.

You have 6 dedicated AI units both stock and doctrinal.
Why you're so fixated on volks is beyond my comprehension.

Let me spell it out for you again:

VOLKS ARE NOT MEANT TO STAND UP TO ALL ALLIED INFANTRY BECAUSE OKW HAVE SHITLOAD OF AI SPECIALIST INFANTRY, USE IT, ADAPT OR EXTINCT.

stop straw manning this has nothing to do with volks or my argument.

Your argument was seemingly small price differences are not excuse for large performance gaps.

I have proven you wrong.

You are grasping at straws now.
Hard.

Thank you for proving my point again . the okw is shoehorned again into one route. you keep making my live easier and easier

So it'll be easier for you to #adapt if you actually understand the need to change your default 5 volk BO. Thats great!

Not my argument so once stop straw manning. 1 , 2 or 10 it doesn't matter this unit needs to have purpose late game. and at moment they get utterly slaughtered.

I beg to differ.
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That is exactly your argument.
You'll be able t #adapt to it, not every german was pure aryan ubermensh and definitely volksgrenadiers weren't. They'll still be better then cons, as the price indicates. Not much to discuss here.

Bloody hell how many times do you keep in brining in stuff that is not relevant.

As many times as it takes you to understand that closing your eyes won't make the reason disappear.

BUT I WILL SPELL IT OUT AGAIN: HOW IS THE OKW GOING TO PERFORM WHEN THEY HAVE INFERIOR INFANTRY AND INFERIOR SUPPORT WEAPONS?

And the answer is they dont.

Exactly like the soviets did from the very release day.
By using doctrines and light vehicles.