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Soviet Tier 4: Hard counters the SU-76.

Who the hell builds SU76, but in theory wouldn´t the Su76 be a soft counter to Pumas? Pens every time, better RoF and cheap ? The fact that the puma needs 3 shots and the Su76 4 is a problem though.

pak has a 50-56% chance to pen is2 front armor.
zis has a 60-66% chance to pen tigers front.

is2 has a 63-83% chance to pen tigers front.
tiger has a 48-59% chance to pen is2s front.

Let´s add RoF and whoever wants get it´s own conclusions

Pak40: 4s (a bit less but makes math quicker)
Vet2: -30%reload (3.13s)
Vet3: -10%reload + 30%pen (2.927s + 72.8%-65.87%)

Zis: 5.8s
Vet2: -30%reload (4.47s)
Vet3: -20%reload +30%pen (3.853s + 86.6%-78%)

Tiger: 5.25s
IS2: 6.65s
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You need 6.5 penetrating shots (1040hp) to kill either tank.
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Let´s take 10-20-30s of nonstop shooting

10s
OH: 1.9 Tiger and 2.5 of pak40 (3.2 - 3.4)
SU: 1.5 IS2 and 1.7 of zis (2.2 - 2.6)
20s
OH: 3.8 Tiger and 5 of pak40 (6.4 - 6.8)
SU: 3 IS2 and 3.5 of zis (4.5 - 5.2)
30s
OH: 5.7 shots of Tiger and 7.5 of pak40 (9.6 if vet2 - 10.3 if vet3)
SU: 4.5 shots of IS2 and 5.2 of Zis (6.7 if vet2 - 7.8 if vet3)

At this point and taking into account mid range
5 (53%) n 7 (53%) vs 4 (73%) n 5 (63%)
Expectation:
6pen (2.5+3.5) vs 6pen (3+3)
Conclusion:
Bless be the RNG gods.
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Note: it´s far more common having a vet AT gun rather than vet2 heavies due to how fast they vet.
Note2: now i´m scared of vet3 zis.
Note3: guys, don´t forget to use TWP the next time you face an IS2.

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thats exactly what it is. so vet 2 pgrens have .6177 received accuracy.

I guess my wild aproximation was right

So it goes from 1,15± to 1,62± (in term of armor and for comparison)


Instead of this wild changes that are been mentioned, i´m gonna say it again:

-Vet1 boring useless medkits + (-)15% received accuracy
-Vet2 -20% receive accuracy + (-)25%cooldown

This would make the scaling to vet2 a bit less drastic, increasing a bit survivability early on.

Note: i know that it would mean a bit more extra less received accuracy but it´s not as significant
Vet0 = 0.87 / 1.15±
Vet1 = 0.7395 / 1.35±
Vet2 = 0.5916 (0.6177) / 1.69± (1.62±)

Repairing should give xp (except for SP due to combat capabilities)
Mines COULD give xp. Someone could argue it would be an easy way of getting vet3 engineers on an instant, therefore it could be xp gain only for building/defusing them.
RE/Pios could get xp for building bunkers.

I´m not sure regarding xp from base buildings and obviously NO to things which are free (barb wire, sandbags, tanktraps, etc.)

Shocks (model) DPS at mid: 1.073
PG DPS at mid: 8.508
They are just close range combat units.

DPS lose: that´s the problem of upgrades vs default weapons. Same problem Penals suffer but even worse.
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@Aerohank: they had 0.75 rec acc and change it to 0.87
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Vet2 increase received accuracy (it was 40% extra armor). Someone knows the value right now?

Without changing the stats of the unit, you could spread the benefits of vet2 into vet1 giving it a bit of increase survivability.
So if for example it was -29% rec acc, it could be spread out 15-15 between both levels of veterancy.

Tweaking reinforcement/cost should also be an option.