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Thread: Penal Battalions Balanced patch from Relic *Sarcasm3 Jan 2018, 15:11 PM If you rewatch clip you can see I had 2 units firing instead of 1, i am so tired. Just played for 6 hours straight that I cant even edit a clip properly haha. It's happened before, while both of us in hard cover, I have to agree that volks damage without any upgrades feels like paper in this patch in comparison with ally units. Conscripts are still bad in my eyes, i can handle them from a distance no problem but Penal... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Penal Battalions Balanced patch from Relic *Sarcasm3 Jan 2018, 14:21 PM oops I did not notice clip was shit, i updated it with a better view of what I am concerned about. After viewing clip, I was tired and playing a little badly. But I have better clips of what I mean, in the future I will update. I do not want to argue or come off as a whiner, I love this game. I am just noticing Penals getting pretty strong against OKW inf early game, too strong for comfort. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Penal Battalions Balanced patch from Relic *Sarcasm3 Jan 2018, 11:35 AM I am speaking strictly from an OKW perspective. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Penal Battalions Balanced patch from Relic *Sarcasm3 Jan 2018, 11:33 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Jan 2018, 11:31 AMNubb3r Do you even know about the point blank mechanism, or how model drops reduce dps and influence engagements? That Volks would've won 100% if you went close. Do you even know the HP of and dmg of penals now? You think i have not tried that? By the time i can close the gap, I will lose 2 units in that squad, for sure. The dmg they can soke up is tremendous and the output too strong for start of game. Do you guys replying even play okw or have face this? If so please share clip becaused all I here is talking and no proof. this clip also is a poor example because that guy only went 1 penal and 1 conscript. it is not worth building conscrits anymore. If he had 2 penals he would of decimated. Rushing penals is not doable atm, try it against a good player at start of game who brings 2 out. PLease. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Penal Battalions Balanced patch from Relic *Sarcasm3 Jan 2018, 11:31 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Jan 2018, 11:26 AMVipper The ST44 upgrade actually increase their DPS mid to close significantly. "unit card" was not properly updated when ST44 become available. The reason he suggested to move closer is so that that "point blank" mechanism would kick in and penal would not benefit from cover bonuses. Penals remain a unit too strong for it's time frame. You are talking about st44, I know this, penal battalions are a t1 unit. The complain here is that they are too strong as a starter unit EARLY GAME. Before you even munitions to upgrade bolks with st44. Puts you at a severe disadvantage that much muns for one upgrade and not having ability to flame nade soviet MG. A good soviet player now is bring penal, mg and guards. It is too strong against OKW. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Penal Battalions Balanced patch from Relic *Sarcasm3 Jan 2018, 11:27 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Jan 2018, 09:26 AMmacca2112 I'm sorry but this is just too much for me, you literally made me make an account just write a response to this thread. You are complaining about penals being Op when in one of the examples you gave for them being Op was a volk squad out in the complete open losing to a Penal squad in heavy cover.... Guarantee if that volk squad had have been in heavy cover and the penals out in the open the penals would have lost. This is not a penal issue this is a l2p issue. you are wrong, i can clip you more clips if you being wrong. Penals even in the open ground will out dmg and take more shots then volks can receive or give. both units behind heavy cover will give penal victory. Penals do not come in 1 either, a good player brings 2. The penal spam is real. Also, you need to learn to view peoples profile. Ive been playing this game since coh 1 and I have 700 hours into coh 2. I am not new or here to just vent, it is an obvious unit that is seeing good results in this patch. Against OKW they are too strong. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Penal Battalions Balanced patch from Relic *Sarcasm3 Jan 2018, 11:24 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Jan 2018, 10:49 AMtightrope It is nice that you provided a video so we can see what you did wrong. If you had closed into close range (<10) there was a good chance you would have won with them at that HP. Instead you stayed at mid range where they kept their cover bonus (50% Received Accuracy & 50% received damage bonus) Why would i close range with infantry that is meant to engange in long range? Volks are no good from close range, unit card states good long range inf. They should not be loosing long range battles against ex convicts. One volks squad was also shooting from an angle where the unit was not affected by heavy cover. this is just the clip i bothered to share, I have many more. I stream this game, I do not come here to cry or make things up. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Penal Battalions Balanced patch from Relic *Sarcasm3 Jan 2018, 06:05 AM https://www.twitch.tv/videos/214492365 starts at 40 mins we had 2 win ez streaks, then we are paired up against penal blob I still beat teammate back to spawn camp but it doesnt matter soviets are too strong in this patch, penal blob wins. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Penal Battalions Balanced patch from Relic *Sarcasm3 Jan 2018, 06:03 AM https://clips.twitch.tv/ColorfulGeniusLEDBrokeBack I can show more clips of similar situations It would not have mattered if I had both units behind heavy cover, penal would have still soaked up damage long enough to be a balanced unit this has been a problem for a while now, however with the latest nerfs and changes it is becoming incredibly more obvious and frustrating how such a cheese tactic is winning at the moment. It should not be and it is very strange that any Soviet player you meet now in game completely ignores conscripts and builds only penal battalions. I mean why woulnt they? Because they have to combine arms and play like every other faction has to? HOW is this even historically accurate? penal battalions were ex convicts fighting for their freedom, they should have less equipment and fighting capabilities then conscripts. But forget about realism it just should not happen in an RTS like this a unit can ignore cover and flanking maneuvers so early in game and just A right click move. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Incredibly close game 1 hour long 2v2 German victory28 Sep 2015, 15:50 PM Me and my friend play this game everyday and we think we are one fierce beast. Here is one of our latest game for all you to enjoy. 2 tiger tanks were lost *ineffective but we never gave up and ultimately our rocket artillery was able to help bring a very close victory against a faction that needs a serious nerf. Most of us are sick of Brit tactics, the ridiculous damage of AA emplacements on tanks like panzer 4 and jadgpanzer. The spam of artillery strikes in late game and the centaurs ridiculous range, armor protection and damage. It can even damage panzer 4's. However this does not stop faithful fans from taking up the challenge of beating this op beast and makes it that much more satisfying when we do so. Enjoy In: Replays

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