Unless oponent is OST. Has vet 1 pak with TWP and 2 stugs nearby
So you think the Churchill should survife running into a trap of three dedicated anti tank units? |
And his parents' generation were too old, being in their 30s and 40s. How is that too old? Isn´t fighting age 18-45 years? I know my grandfathers father was drafted at age 40 something though for 2nd line duties. Still was involved in combat. |
just give it the ability to kill infantry,and a little buff to its rate of fire,anything more would make it overpowered...also,personal opinion,it's to fast when reversing I agree, rate of fire + better MGs would make the Panther worthwhile. That´s pretty much what the OKW Panther has over the ostheer Panther anyways. The speed would have to be tuned down as a whole as you can´t adjust reverse speed separately. |
Don't change them. Price them to their current performance. Then the Panther could be bad at what it does every 6min 30secs instead of being shit every 7 minutes. Hardly an improvement. |
Its perfect at running away. It serves no purpose what so ever. puma's stugs and jp4's outclass it in every . They dont have the staying power to the panther but death enemy's do zero damage. and 2 stugs can turn any allied tank into scrap metal under 10 seconds while the panther need a more then half a minute.
And that´s why the Panther sucks. I couldn´t have worded it better myself. No purpose, it´s not even a damage sponge. The community patchers seem to avoid this thread though like the plague. I guess there is nothing planned about the Panther. -.- |
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Since the previous Panther thread was locked as it went off topic, I start a new one with the question what you want the Panther to be in the upcoming patch. Maybe the patch-makers can reveal their plans - if they have any.
As others have said before at least the Ost Panther is lacking. I would propose that it could get more damage with this slow rate of fire. Currently it can´t hunt tanks. |
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The Ost Panther definitely needs some love with the community patch. And I´m not talking about just accuracy on the move. The problem is not only it not hitting but also it being bad if it ever hits. The rate of fire is bad, it has less range than real tank destroyers and the Comet can give it a headache while also being way more usable versus infantry. The Panther can lob a shell and then run away to not get killed by medium tanks. |
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Just imagine Germans had the "Krupp Steel" ability on their tanks that would make them take almost no damage from AT. This is what brace is. It counters the counter to emplacements.
And before you try to bring smoke into play: Any braindead can attack ground and still kill the tank + it costs ammunition + it´s locked in doctrines.
Brace is just that: Invincibility. |
Let´s talk about...
stupid, OP things.
Suck 160gas in 20sek:
https://youtu.be/GulOHolWYpc?t=9482
destroy 2 huge (pussy)cats in seconds with a no brain "I-WIN"Button
https://youtu.be/GulOHolWYpc?t=9256
Yeah Relic...pls more Op stuff, so people can abuse it and win situation where your oponent doesnt make one failure...but you have the abilitys to destroy a whole army with one single klick.
while u can safe all the time 1200 Manpower....
Dont come with the argument that the brit was a better player....he fail much time in this game...and guess why the player choose brit as the most picked faction while tournements...expacilly the "best" player.
They abuse chess...and doesnt show much skill....they use the OP abilitys to win.
That game shows perfectly fine how the Panther is bad compared to the Comet. The Panther offers MARGINALLY better AT performance for a crippled AI performance. YOu see Comets piling up Vet easily by killing infantry left and right, while also being able to tackle German cats, while the Panthers can get off some AT shots with a horrendous rate of fire and not much else. Mind you that these are the better Panthers from OKW. Ostheer Panthers are even worse. |
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Agreed on the Panther. It serves no purpose and can´t fight cost efficiently versus medium tanks. This is simply bad for a tank that sacrifices 10 range contrary to other dedicated anti tank vehicles. If it could at least kill infantry that would be balanced. But it can´t even do that yet is priced as one of the most expensive non doctrinal units. (I think only the Comet is marginally more expensive for a multitude of the overall usefulness). The Panther can´t even work as a damage sponge since the armor is easily penetrated and protects only against Cromwells, Shermans and T-34-76s. Or in short: The Panther sucks balls. |
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