Profile of KiwiBirb

I personally don’t like the range VS health mechanic, because it is disproportionately infuened by map design, and because it causes problems in team games.

So here is an alternate way to balance tank destroyers

Cromwell: 40 range, 640hp, 5.5-6s reload, 160/80 armour, 135 - 120 - 105 pen
Panzer (Ost): 40 range, 640hp, 5.3-5.7s reload, 180/90 armour, 120 - 115 - 110 pen

Panther: 50 range, 960hp, 5.2-5.6s reload, 260/90 armour, 260-240-210 pen

Jackson: 60range, 640hp, 4.5-5s reload, 130/60 armour, 260 - 240 -210 pen



Proposal:

Mediums: increased close penetration (70% pen chance) vs panthers, standard 5.3s -5.7s reload

Panther: 50 range 960hp, 6.6 - 7.2s reload, 270/90 armour 135 - 120 - 115 pen

Jackson: (focus fire mode) 50 range 640hp 4.3 - 4.5s reload 160/80 armour 200- 180- 160 pen 120degree field of fire, high accuracy
Non focus fire: 5.3- 5.7 reload

Focus fire is there because it functions like the panther’s low rear armour & incetivises hard flanks
The reason why I propose increasing the panther’s reload instead of lowering HP is to normalize 2 panthers vs 2 Jacksons

So: 2 panther shots for every 3 Jackson shots, Jackson has 33% more DPS. Panther has 33% more HP, TTK will be equal for both. They are both have 1 shot faster ttk than mediums because of their faster fire rate / more HP, and are even better at long range due to better pen/ accuracy




This would also mean Jagdtiger/ elephant could be nerfed

While I don’t like the range vs HP mechanic, it’s fine with Panthers & su85s / fireflys, I think the Jackson is still too good

Just because it isn’t a t70 doesn’t mean it’s bad

if you are fighting a opponent with skill usually its the first volley of AT that hits before the tank pulls away so that makes the high burst damage of the Pshreck alot more useful especially against weaker allied armor. Also I think its quite nonsensical to say that 2 zooks on riflemen or rears is anywhere near the same level as Pfusiliers with 2 shreck. As the shreck has more damage and pen. Also you could easily get units like Obers to cover all you AI needs while 1 or 2 squads of Pfusiliers beat away all allied mediums. meanwhile as the USF you are limited to only rifles if you didnt pick an elite inf commander

Well then why aren’t all the pros doing this kappa

My thoughts - I think it should be a viable ability at all health.

I think it’s inteneded role is to a) stop a tank from rushing your SU 85s, or b) stop a tank from running away from your SU 85s.

I really don’t like the ram + Il 2 tactic. Too little user input for too much reward, and it feels bad to have control taken away from you. Maybe add a delay between contact & crit?

I’d propose this: Ram deals 160 damage to both tanks for 4-6s. The T34 gets the driver killed crit immediately for 4-6s, and the target also gets the driver killed crit for 4-6s.

This way, if an enemy tank is trying to escape, you can ram it to prevent it from escaping, or if it’s rushing you SUs you can ram it to prevent it from rushing.
Because the crits aren’t permanent, it isn’t as frustrating as well, and doesn’t discourage its use at the beginning of a fight.

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