Interesting comments from SpaceHamster regarding the Brits, basically he thinks they are strong now but still wouldn't play them in a tournament..
http://www.coh2.org/topic/48249/sweepstake-how-many-brit-games-in-the-esl-tomorrow/page/1#post_id479709
I'd be interested to hear from other tournament players, whether they agree or disagree. There are plenty of other threads detailing individual units and their capabilities, this is more about the faction design which is supposed to be able to take a VP hit early and come back to win.
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Any suggestions as to how this could be fixed Space Hamster?
Along with most of the Brits top ten you have less than 100 games with them, only Zoobee and RoyalHants seem to have a significant number of games. Is this entirely due to their lack of tournament application? |
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Interesting..
I guess also for people looking to climb the ladder rankings they'd get much more mileage from picking a faction they can steamroller someone in 10 minutes than a faction you need longer games to win with.
Does limit their tournament potential somewhat... |
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1) Mortar Half Track, has some nasty abilities for dealing with the pesky Brits.
2) & 3) Think these might be Ostheer...
4) Infantry Support Gun. Huuuuuge range to attack emplacements with.
5) Sneezing was meant somewhat facetiously. They are unarmoured and have little in the way of HP so die quite readily to any attacker. |
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That many?
Would love to see plenty of Brit replays but I suspect we'll only see a smattering. Judging by how difficult it is to get the top players to play Brits on their twitch streams ( like pulling teeth) I'm thinking more like 5 games in total and none in quarters, semis or finals. |
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Sneezing on them, lightly, from afar seems to work.
Shreck blob, ISG, tanks, there isn't much they aren't vulnerable to. |
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As per the title...
Post your predictions!
For reference I don't think there were any in the first one ( certainly none in the later stages) though Hants did play them twice, once in a semi ( and was crushed) IIRC, in the last one. |
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Other than it having 1920HP what are the stats for it?
Does anything else in the game have that much health? |
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"Schwerer doesn't have brace. Arti it's face off. Sturms are way to valuable to risk repairing under fire."
What arty?
As I say mortars don't scratch the paint even when you build one purely to bombard it, no way to get an IS close enough to hope for several lucky hits from base arty. If you haven't picked a commander with some sort of offmap ( even so artillery cover doesn't seem to target it, even concentrated arty doesn't kill it) - I don't know maybe air supremacy does something, though seem to remember seeing a replay where 2 strikes were needed ( 500 muni?)..
By the time it comes out you've already picked doctrine, most of them have diddly squat that helps with this behemoth. That leaves running Cromwells into a pak or shreck line, even unsupported it will happily relieve you of a Cromwell or two.
I doubt the Brit emplacements would even need brace if they had 2000 HP. |
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How exactly are you meant to kill these things?
Assuming he has Paks and shrecked infantry defending I can't get close to them. Attack ground with a mortar for 5+ minutes doesn't even seem to scratch the paint, none of the call ins seem to destroy it and even an armoured rush seems to need extravagant force ( 2 Cromwells certainly isn't enough, it destroys AECs in a heartbeat, coordinated artilley doesn't seem to target it and the idea of getting an IS within 20 yards to use the base howis is fantasy land, not that it would hit them anyway).
Pushing ATs up that far is a good way to lose them... Do the Brits have anything that can take them out? |
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