Try playing 2's, 3's or 4's with all Ostheer.
I have with Assault Support, Mechanized Assault and CAS does wonders with OKW blobs and Jags. |
Never gonna happen. Grens can be reinforced on-the-fly from a HT behind a wall or a command bunker from behind the damn wall (Fix that relic).
Its cons which need a buff. They are useless late game in which they become a merely caping unit.
If Grens get 5th man than Cons should be reflect late war Soviet infantry, MOAR shock troop like! |
Jesus dude, this argument is so flawed I don't even know where to begin. Just actually play OH in 1v1, you'll see. Lets say 20 games. I am serious here, this tends to cure people of such misconceptions drastically. More practice less theory.
1 v 1 on some maps Ostheer struggle completely and yes it is an uphill battle vs USF, kinda like USF vs OKW battles. But besides the point, Wehr is playable and not "rubbish" in 2 v 2+s games. |
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If ur most played is wehr then u should know saying moving is far easier than done,when 120 mm/pack howie,sherman etc lands suddenly in head.
U move ur grens u lose that infantry fight.U move shrecks pzgrens it can;t fire=useless,in fights they HAVE to stand still to be effective...there is no micro against 1 shotted bullshit.
Now answer the question DPS/HP ratio reamins same by reducing gren DPS on model,then conscripts balance earlygame is not moved..why is then there a obstacle to 5 men to remove 1 shot problem..or is it just that u are inherently anti axis,,,the general trend of ur posts.
I am anti OKW because this faction needs a major over haul and in team games Axis is EZ-mode. Only handful of Axis only players are asking for a 5man squad NOW (4 man Grens existed LONG ago). If you watch Luvnest's stream or any pro level streams, 5 man Grens is not the solution nor was it ever suggested. |
Because obers fire their LMGs on the move,pzgrens can't fire shrecks on move,neither grens lmg42. Staying still to aim is when max wipes happen.How can u not understand something so simple?Oh wait u don't play ost...
So? Just move your units if there is a indirect fire unit near by (micro your units and retreat when you need to). My most played faction is Wher thank you very much. You can look it up. I am more than welcome to play with you using Wher to show you how to play against indirect fire and RNG units. |
give them members,who cares.They aren't standard frontline infantry.
Your whole premise was Grens and PGS being 4 man squad getting wiped, so why cant we make an argument about other 4 man squads such as Obers? Should we make Obers 5 man squad too since they get wiped JUST like Grens and PGs? |
Pathfinders, CEs, and RE's are core basic infantry now?
No but I am not whining about it nor are the pro players, even Luvnest says Grens are ok. We have multiple squads get wiped from 4 man to 5 man, its all RNG. Why complain about this now after 3 years of the game release? |
Mechanized is the worst USF commander in the game next to armor. Every time I play against someone who goes mechanized I laugh as my Ostheer friend fausts him.
Or just have my sturms kill his WC51 truck lmao
Dodge is a good counter for Kubel spam, flanking MGs and Mortars. |
Neither teching nor mg42 'small buff' will end ost gren squads getting 1 shotted.Or shitty pzgrens.
Fine,if grens stay 4 men,pzgrens at 5 men.At 340 mp they can't be blobbed or spammed.
And he has created a mod itself,why argue when u can test urself.
Sadly, my path finders, CEs and RE troops will say the same. |
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