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Thread: USF Rifle Company Rework1 Jul 2019, 23:26 PM Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2019, 17:04 PMGI John 412 That aside, your suggestion is pretty good, but I would say that it has a lot of overlap with Mechanized Company. Rifle Company should have some sort of buff for Riflemen that is unique to it, but doesn’t fundamentally change the role of Riflemen as a medium range generalist. That’s why I suggested the Veteran Sergeant upgrade with the M1 Carbine. It would make Riflemen better at their intended role of frontline combatant, but not just be some flat DPS boost. Hence the 6th man with a carbine. Thompsons on Riflemen would be too much like Cavalry Riflemen and the Easy Eight is already quite similar to the 76mm Sherman, so it’s best to keep Mechanized Company similarities to a minimum. In my mind, Rifle Company should offer things to USF that other factions get non-doctrinally, but not gift them with anything too OP. ... I agree, after thinking about it a bit more, how about this: Ability 1: Keep Flamethrowers Ability 2: Riflemen upgrades - Give them a choice of three mutually exclusive upgrades like Tommies get: a) Thompsons with a 6th man, with the Thompsons taking either one or two slots, plus the OKW infiltration grenades b) an observation package to riflemen which gives them a scoped rifle, better sight, and a sixth man (basically the exact same upgrade as the Fusiliers get) or c) your suggestion of a vet sergeant. Ability 3: Keep White Phos Ability 4: Add Time on Target offmap from Infantry company (or better yet the old Mechanized one) Ability 5: Keep Easy Eight This would allow a player to adapt Rifles to any situation. One decent offmap, one good offmap, and the Easy Eight would keep the doctrine centered around Rifles with support as needed. I'm always short on munis as USF so the offmaps would have to be used sparingly, which is also okay. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: USF Rifle Company Rework1 Jul 2019, 15:37 PM Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2019, 04:22 AMGI John 412 Halftrack sounds like it might synergies well with Riflemen, but it’s also in several other doctrines, so that would make it too similar to Mechanized Company. I disagree with you about the Easy Eight. I think the Easy Eight is fine, it’s very powerful against other tanks and is good against infantry with its coaxial and bow mounted MGs plus the .50 cal. Pound for pound, the Easy Eight may be the best allied medium tank overall. The Easy Eight is a good tank even as it is. The problem is the rest of the doctrine. Rather than worrying about historical accuracy, think about what would make this commander good enough that you would put it in your loadout, without making it so OP that it would just get nerfed in the next patch. Fire Up is easily the worst ability. Simply eliminate it. Smoke and flamethrowers have already been removed from riflemen once. Any proposal to add them back is a non-starter. This commander could be turned into a good commander for city fighting. Ability 1: Keep Flamethrowers Ability 2: Riflemen assault package - Thompsons like Para's get, plus the OKW infiltration grenades Ability 3: Either keep Riflemen flares or add a mutually exclusive observation package to riflemen which gives them a scoped rifle and acts like a G43 upgrade. Ability 4: Replace White Phos with the Time on Target offmap from Infantry company Ability 5: Keep Easy Eight In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Is raketen ever going to get better?30 Jun 2019, 05:09 AM Jump back to quoted post29 Jun 2019, 09:37 AMBalanced_Gamer The thing is, it has the so called best attributes being: ....... But the thing that makes this the worst AT gun is due to these factors: 1./ Highest received accuracy 2./ Limited Range (forcing it to get closer) 3./ 4 man clumped 4./ Slower Targeting due to limited range (meaning its "time to aim" is limited) .... It gets really frustrating to see a vehicle drive through most of the arc of the raketen and watch the raketen NOT fire, especially when the one hit would kill the vehicle. I almost always get one or two but the aim time (not sure if that is what the stat is called) is terrible. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: New USF doctrine is too good27 Jun 2019, 22:12 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Jun 2019, 20:55 PMTiger Baron You need the game modes as well as skin packs for the mod which are separate items on the workshop, that and the units being tied to their specific fronts and years (for example the Jumbo being in 1944: Battle of the Bulge) are the only 2 thing hampering the mod but they're sadly limits of the modding tools more than anything else. TL;DR Download the other parts of the mod (should have the same name if you search for them, 3 skin packs and 1 victory/game mode conditions) and select the victory condition to be 1944: Battle of the Bulge for the Jumbo. Guy made the mod with realism in mind, with that said he's researched everything in great detail and implemented it as best he could given the limitations of the modding tools sadly, still I think he's done a fantastic job. Thanks again! The tank combat reminds me of Steel Division and Steel Division 2, without having to wait so long for the tanks to get into battle. It's my new favorite COH2 mod. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: New USF doctrine is too good27 Jun 2019, 20:48 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Jun 2019, 16:51 PMTiger Baron There is a community one in my signature. I downloaded the mod and played it but couldn't find a Jumbo in it. Is the Jumbo tied in to a specific commander or victory condition? By the way, thank you for mentioning the mod. I tried it and like it better than any other mod that I've tried. I especially like how they've done the line of sight. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Super AT Guns27 Jun 2019, 18:23 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Jun 2019, 16:25 PMMaret Idea with decrewable emplacement sounds nice, it will be good if all howitzers also have this option, to have chance save some part of they cost in face of offmap strike. Arty wars are terribly un-fun. If there was any change to howitzers, I'd like to see a veto added for them on the search screen, and would gladly give up a map veto or two for a howitzer veto. Also, it takes about six minutes of munition income in a typical match to take out a howitzer that costs about 2-3 minutes of manpower and fuel income. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: New USF doctrine is too good27 Jun 2019, 15:51 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Jun 2019, 15:11 PMTiger Baron I'm still thinking that giving them a meatshield tank in the form of the Jumbo would be a better alternative than cheap and borderline OP gimmicks for the regular Sherman but that's just me I guess. USF does need a meatshield tank. The only problem with your suggestion is that there isn't a model for the Jumbo, unless Relic would be willing to use the model for the Easy 8 as the model for the Jumbo. I'd be happy with even a non-doctrinal Easy 8 (make it a side upgrade on Tier 3). If that happened, Rifle Company could replace the Easy 8 with the Pershing which would help that commander greatly. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Super AT Guns27 Jun 2019, 15:41 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Jun 2019, 16:58 PMmurky depths They absolutely should not be self-spotting, that would give you an incredible map-hack ability that would put the old t-70 at vet-3 to shame. I think they're fine to frustrating, particularly due to the "can shoot through obstacles" issue. I'd rather see the pak43 be turned into an actual emplacement and no longer be able to shoot through obstacles, with a timed ability like the 17 pounder. The old T-70 (and 222) were mobile, had something crazy like a 80-90 sight range and could be used offensively. The AT guns aren't mobile and could only be used defensively so it wouldn't be any sort of map-hack ability. I don't use them so I don't know what the current range is. Of the two, the only one that I've found annoying is the UKF one, and that's only because I don't usually get any indirect when playing as OKW. I realize the game is just a game and not intended to be a simulation, but it is really odd that an AT gun needs a spotter like artillery does, and that AT guns are damaged by armor piercing rounds, when normally the damage to it would be to the crew and not the AT gun itself. Infantry should be able to decrew either a PAK 43 or a 17lbr. Engineers should be able to destroy a decrewed AT gun. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Super AT Guns26 Jun 2019, 16:41 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Jun 2019, 12:41 PMLago If you had a blank sheet to overhaul the Pak 43 and 17 Pounder, what would you do with them? You're limited by the engine, so you can't make them mobile or give them new animations. Beyond that though, you can change anything you like. In general, I think they're fine right now. There are differences between the two but they're both pretty usable, and both great for punishing YOLO charges. One possible change would be to make them self-spotting at max range. It seems really strange to have a game engine that requires a spotter for a direct fire weapon. I'd also make their range equal to any of the direct fire weapons that shoot at them. Both of them should be able to be decrewed by attacking them with infantry. They should be highly vulnerable to infantry, grenades, or HE rounds and not easily damaged by AP rounds. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: New USF doctrine is too good26 Jun 2019, 16:26 PM I tried this commander in a couple of 4v4's and found that I bled manpower too much. It might be too good in 1's or 2's, as blackdream claims, but in a larger game it isn't as good as any of the Tiger commanders, IS-2, etc, or even other some other USF commanders. I realize that 4v4 takes a back seat to 1's or 2's but would like to see something done for USF in those modes and see it done in a way that doesn't mess up 1's or 2's. It gets boring playing Jacksons, double Scotts and infantry blob every game. Giving the USF a Pershing unlock similar to the OKW KT unlock would help, and the fuel requirements would be large enough that it wouldn't affect 1v1's. I know some people are complaining about this patch, but to me it seems like one of the best ones that we've had in terms of balance. It's also been much better in terms of bugs than a lot of patches. Also, how many other games are still getting patched five years after release? In: COH2 Balance