Profile of StephennJF

Make Pioneers more squishy (armor, since apparently, the coh2 design philosophy is keep all HP levels standard), problem fixed.

The flamethrower SHOULD be a deadly weapon. Its costing you 60 muns, it better damn do what's advertising, you also always run the risk of going kaboom. Make them squishy, and you'll have to flank carefully or risk being focused.

Yeah this exactly it. You no longer have to be careful with flamers because they have so much health. You dont have to find the best shot blocking route and get them in nice and close at the point you expose them to fire. You can march right down the center and it does the job.

I don't know how much armour plays a factor, if its literally reduces the damage done by the mulitple, but would be great to test it with Pioneers and Engineers at 0.85 armour.

I have brought up this issue a couple of times post game to my in-game opponents and I'd like to hear the opinion of CoH2 members before I say anything on the SEGA forums. Basically I am finding that flamer Pioneers and Engineers have way to much health than they need per man. At the moment the way it stands in terms of stats is:

Pioneers/Engineers: 80HP, 1 armour
Conscripts: 80HP, 1 armour
Grenadiers: 80HP, 1.5 armour

What I find is that due to the very small amount of damaged caused by small arms fire, when focusing down a flame pioneer completely out of cover, they take very little damage at all. As the targeted Conscripts walk backwards, I continue to focus the Pioneers down with other squads but this takes way to much time to force a retreat on the pioneers. This excessively large amount of time focus firing from conscripts often allows grens, pgs or other supporting units to deal the pain.

Basically such a high DPS and relatively cheap unit stands up way to long in a fight. It's not like the flame pioneers/engineers of CoH1 where if they are caught out of cover for 2-3 seconds and focused they will take a decent chunk of damage, retreat or die. I am finding these pioneer flamers extremely hard to tackle in the mid-game as Russians, without a vechile doing all the job. Only thing I ever find useful is using a molotov in their shortest movement direction path to buy extra time or use Ohhh Rahh and get a greater distance fast. I find it is easier to force the retreat of a engineer flamer with Ostheer because they generally have a higher DPS infantry, especially when equipped with LMG, mpg44 or G43.

I feel as though a 10% - 15% health reduction or armour reduction would be suitable for the situation. Would like to hear what you guys feel about this aswell or have any advice on how to tackle it? Most the time post-game when I state this to my opponents I am met with abuse and others think its fine the way it is, but state no real advice.

Soo much win!! Great cast A_E MVGame

Heyy dude MVGame

Nice one! Looking forward to more of this