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HMG42 Cancer

11 Oct 2019, 04:58 AM
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For God's sake can we put this unit in T1 infantry company yet? Good god why is this a T0 unit and it only costs 260 MP?
11 Oct 2019, 04:59 AM
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11 Oct 2019, 05:00 AM
#3
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Can I get grens in t0
11 Oct 2019, 05:02 AM
#4
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Can I get grens in t0


Yes. I don't know why such a powerful unit like the MG42 is T0 especially on these small maps were you win the game in 2 minutes just by rushing it into a building
11 Oct 2019, 06:24 AM
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Can I get grens in t0


Actually gren use to be in T0 and mg42 use to be in T1, long ago.
11 Oct 2019, 07:41 AM
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Actually gren use to be in T0 and mg42 use to be in T1, long ago.


I am almost positive grens have always been tier 1...
11 Oct 2019, 07:54 AM
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Grenadiers have always been in tier 1, even back in beta days.

And it's there because it's a cornerstone of Ostheer and kind of critical for them early game, especially part of T1 as well as vs WFAs. If the 42 was put to the building, Ostheer map control is going to plummet vs them if due to their entire queue being held up in T1.
11 Oct 2019, 08:59 AM
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Mg42 in t1 and grens in t2 will do ze trick
11 Oct 2019, 09:18 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Oct 2019, 04:58 AMCODGUY
For God's sake can we put this unit in T1 infantry company yet? Good god why is this a T0 unit and it only costs 260 MP?


Hey, Mg42 is really fine. There are so many ways to deal with it.

-mortar smoke (very effective)
-normal mortar fire
-sniper
-light vehicles
-grenades
-flanking
-play ostheer (easy kappa)
-stay in your base and drink tea
-send in the little cute puppy dogs
-hoist the white flag
-steal the MG42 gunner´s munitions before the battle starts
-send the MG42 gunner a package of donuts for christmas so he won´t shoot at you during the summmer


See? You can easily avoid an angry MG42 gunner, just be a little bit more creative and don´t run straight up to him.
11 Oct 2019, 09:46 AM
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Why is FishMan still allowed to make threads?
11 Oct 2019, 10:01 AM
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11 Oct 2019, 10:25 AM
#12
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well command group 1 will never counter it, try splitting up your forces
11 Oct 2019, 11:05 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Oct 2019, 04:58 AMCODGUY
For God's sake can we put this unit in T1 infantry company yet? Good god why is this a T0 unit and it only costs 260 MP?


It used to be a huge problem for USF: if it got into a building, you needed a Pack Howie or a literal tank to get it out again.

That's why USF got a T0 mortar.
11 Oct 2019, 14:11 PM
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well command group 1 will never counter it, try splitting up your forces


That's because you don't blob enough!!! When in doubt, make it bigger. 60% of the time, it works every time.
11 Oct 2019, 17:08 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Oct 2019, 05:02 AMCODGUY


Yes. I don't know why such a powerful unit like the MG42 is T0 especially on these small maps were you win the game in 2 minutes just by rushing it into a building


It is in T0 because all Alliis are spam fractions. No troll, that is the fact = bad fraction design of Allii, to compensate the f**ked Ostheer.
11 Oct 2019, 19:01 PM
#16
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Am i the only one smelling L2P here? Smells fishy...
11 Oct 2019, 19:19 PM
#17
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For me it is more cancer 6 crew in support endowments, penals, the damage of the infantry sections or the damage of the vickers (the truth I do not know if it has more damage than the mg or is because the grens are 4 men)
11 Oct 2019, 19:24 PM
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Am i the only one smelling L2P here? Smells fishy...


You seriously don’t know this guy? Lol

http://www.companyofheroes.com/leaderboards#profile/steam/76561198147117526/standings
11 Oct 2019, 19:33 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Oct 2019, 05:02 AMCODGUY
Yes. I don't know why such a powerful unit like the MG42 is T0 especially on these small maps were you win the game in 2 minutes just by rushing it into a building


Swapping Grens with the MG42's tech position wouldn't really change much. T1 only takes a handful (30s?) to build, so it would only delay the MG42 by that much; meanwhile Grens would be hitting the field earlier. If anything, the swap might actually (slightly) buff OST, since they'd be able to defend the MG42 better while it's moving around, making early MG-stealing (or flanking) much harder.



This is really a non-issue.
11 Oct 2019, 19:41 PM
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