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How to deal with Cavalry Riflemen?

15 Mar 2019, 08:13 AM
#1
avatar of PanzerKampf

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If they approach your infantry it's game over. If you attack them with halftracks or tanks, they throw sachel.

If the USF played blobs 2 Cavalry squads, you can't fight them unless you have 3 squads of your own.

I'm starting to have problems against USF Cavalry Riflemen lately as Wehrmacht. As OKW I thought I could counter them with Fallshirmjager but not really.

Help.
15 Mar 2019, 08:56 AM
#2
avatar of Farlon

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You can try using panzer grenadiers at max range as they have similar DPS to grenadiers at long range and should be able to inflict enough casualties to still win if they get close enough.
15 Mar 2019, 09:05 AM
#3
avatar of LeOverlord

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Use sniper to bleed them.
15 Mar 2019, 09:16 AM
#4
avatar of Joshua85

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light vehicles are still great against them as long as you keep out of sachel distance, which usually shouldn't be that hard due to the short range. If they end up getting a sachel off, just go full jihad and charge into them or other nearby enemy infantry, so you might be able to pull of a cheekey wipe from their own bomb
17 Mar 2019, 03:31 AM
#5
avatar of CODGUY

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They are no match for Panzergrens.
18 Mar 2019, 13:04 PM
#6
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Mar 2019, 03:31 AMCODGUY
They are no match for Panzergrens.


Considering the vast difference in price I should certainly hope not!
18 Mar 2019, 13:27 PM
#7
avatar of aerafield

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Considering the vast difference in price I should certainly hope not!


280/70 and 340 doesnt seem like a crazy difference to me
18 Mar 2019, 14:44 PM
#8
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280/70 and 340 doesnt seem like a crazy difference to me


Not really sure how you would justify including the munitions upgrade in the comparison. If that's the case then there are a load of other factors in terms of abilities, pop cap and vet bonus that should be included as well.
18 Mar 2019, 14:52 PM
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Not really sure how you would justify including the munitions upgrade in the comparison.


I would say cuz 90% of the people go for this upgrade immediately
18 Mar 2019, 20:24 PM
#10
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I would say cuz 90% of the people go for this upgrade immediately


So from this point on we also calculate the price of grenadiers as 240/60 just to make everything more complicated?
18 Mar 2019, 20:56 PM
#11
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So from this point on we also calculate the price of grenadiers as 240/60 just to make everything more complicated?


You would use that comparison if you wanted to compare volks with something like BAR'ed up riflemen, yes. And Panzergrenadiers dont have access to an AI upgrade.

It doesnt rly make sense to compare something that you barely ever see on the battlefield. Or when was the last time you saw an Obersoldaten squad without LMG34 being used against you, for instance?

The 3x Thompson package is a 0-downsides-upgrade for Cav Riflemen, there is no reason at all to not get it.
18 Mar 2019, 21:36 PM
#12
avatar of Joshua85

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Let me correct that for you. It dosen't really make sense to compare most units in general, because there are so many components which make up the balance as a whole.
19 Mar 2019, 02:15 AM
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You would use that comparison if you wanted to compare volks with something like BAR'ed up riflemen, yes. And Panzergrenadiers dont have access to an AI upgrade.

It doesnt rly make sense to compare something that you barely ever see on the battlefield. Or when was the last time you saw an Obersoldaten squad without LMG34 being used against you, for instance?

The 3x Thompson package is a 0-downsides-upgrade for Cav Riflemen, there is no reason at all to not get it.


2 Thompsons for 70 munitions*
19 Mar 2019, 02:23 AM
#14
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2 Thompsons for 70 munitions*


My bad
19 Mar 2019, 04:08 AM
#15
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My bad


All good, just wanted to make sure you had the right info, for it's slightly more expensive and not that strong.
19 Mar 2019, 05:29 AM
#16
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As OST? grens and range. outnumber them. At range with a 222 or flametrack
20 Mar 2019, 00:43 AM
#17
avatar of CODGUY

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Considering the vast difference in price I should certainly hope not!


*Shrug* why? OST and OKW have better units than USF and UKF that are also cheaper. Cavalry Riflemen are not Rangers. They are as fragile as Rear Echeleons.
20 Mar 2019, 07:19 AM
#18
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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Mar 2019, 00:43 AMCODGUY


*Shrug* why? OST and OKW have better units than USF and UKF that are also cheaper. Cavalry Riflemen are not Rangers. They are as fragile as Rear Echeleons.

Oh I recognize you from the Steam coh 2 forum. You are the worst Allies fanboy I've seen in my entire playthrough of this game.
Your opinions are not valid to me because you are extremely biased towards Allies in absolutely every aspect of the game.
20 Mar 2019, 09:33 AM
#19
avatar of Joshua85

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Oh I recognize you from the Steam coh 2 forum. You are the worst Allies fanboy I've seen in my entire playthrough of this game.
Your opinions are not valid to me because you are extremely biased towards Allies in absolutely every aspect of the game.


Yup. I think that would be a fair assessment :p
20 Mar 2019, 23:38 PM
#20
avatar of CODGUY

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Oh I recognize you from the Steam coh 2 forum. You are the worst Allies fanboy I've seen in my entire playthrough of this game.
Your opinions are not valid to me because you are extremely biased towards Allies in absolutely every aspect of the game.


Okay I'll try to be unbiased and ask you some simple questions:

Do you honestly think the M2 .50 cal at 280 MP and 7 pop (plus being locked behind LT tech) is a better MG than a 6 pop HMG42 available immediately at 260 MP?

Do you honestly believe Rear Echeleons at 200 MP are a better engineer unit than Pioneers for the same price already equipped with SMGs and a flamethrower upgrade?

Is USF's mortar better than OSTs for the same price? (Maybe now, finally but for the longest time it wasn't lol).

Whatever you think of Cavalry Riflemen they are not really all THAT good and certainly not borderline game breaking like, JLI which ironically cost the same as Cavalry Riflemen but are way effective.

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