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Bars vs OKW still gud?

1 Jul 2016, 15:14 PM
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I am finding that bar rifles are somewhat crap against OKW and their supreme infantry, or do i need to l2p? Also is their any point going LT vs them? Other than for the lulz

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1 Jul 2016, 15:15 PM
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use cover kiddo
1 Jul 2016, 15:33 PM
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maybe you shouldnt lock in your re while capping the first strat point Kappa
1 Jul 2016, 15:35 PM
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OTOH, .50 cal is gud now so Lt tier rekts volk blob really good, M20 to harass them, AAHT/Meat Chopper no longer get 1 shotted by blob although LMG rifleman is still the best choice.
1 Jul 2016, 15:51 PM
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maybe you shouldnt lock in your re while capping the first strat point Kappa


Happens to all of us once in a while :P How you know was I played you?
1 Jul 2016, 15:54 PM
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Happens to all of us once in a while :P How you know was I played you?


nope. just spectated
1 Jul 2016, 20:37 PM
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Keep your rifles healed, engage at max range.

Rifles are no longer the reliable answer to Stg 44 Volks unless they have LMGs or double BAR

M15 Flaktrack counters Volks well. Use rifles on the flanks to protect from possible Puppchen attack.

1 Jul 2016, 21:01 PM
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Single bar rifles are still feel a little better than STG volks short to midrange however it is pretty close. So don't charge into them 1v1 and expect to win however they also can't charge into you and expect to win.

Basically choose your engagements more wisely
1 Jul 2016, 21:06 PM
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Volks are just better than rifles now, deal with it.

My advice would be using the +10% vet on rifles so you can keep up in the race to reach vet 3, but even then on most engagements you will be at disadvantage.

The 50 cal is doing wonders tough, just keep it alive so you can use that sweet vet bonus.
2 Jul 2016, 12:20 PM
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Single bar rifles are still feel a little better than STG volks short to midrange however it is pretty close. So don't charge into them 1v1 and expect to win however they also can't charge into you and expect to win.

Basically choose your engagements more wisely


Thanks for the reply, however my main problem comes from the combination of an lmg ober with stg volk support, cant stay at long range and getting close isn't an option. Before if you could get in close you could win that but now... I'm guessing I just have to avoid an engagement like that if all i have is bars? Also is their ever a point keeping rifles without bars? Like is their mid/long range better without bars?
2 Jul 2016, 12:32 PM
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Yeah avoid that. Obers require a vehicle, mg or indirect fire. The mortar, scott and .50 cal changes made this more viable.
2 Jul 2016, 12:39 PM
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Volks are just better than rifles now, deal with it.

My advice would be using the +10% vet on rifles so you can keep up in the race to reach vet 3, but even then on most engagements you will be at disadvantage.

The 50 cal is doing wonders tough, just keep it alive so you can use that sweet vet bonus.
bar 56%more dps stg 36% more dps :foreveralone::foreveralone::foreveralone:
must be master race perks
2 Jul 2016, 12:50 PM
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bar 56%more dps stg 36% more dps :foreveralone::foreveralone::foreveralone:
must be master race perks

You can't really say that without saying the range.
2 Jul 2016, 13:21 PM
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I am finding that bar rifles are somewhat crap against OKW and their supreme infantry, or do i need to l2p? Also is their any point going LT vs them? Other than for the lulz

Help me forum warriors, you are my only hope! (na jokes you are all crap too Kappa)



yep you are right we pay 120 ammo to some how be equal they pay much less and preform better

i started using rangers with tompsons + 1 bar

good at close range and this extra bar is nice mid range problem is they drop this bars too often ...




2 Jul 2016, 13:28 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post2 Jul 2016, 13:21 PMbicho1



yep you are right we pay 120 ammo to some how be equal they pay much less and preform better

i started using rangers with tompsons + 1 bar

good at close range and this extra bar is nice mid range problem is they drop this bars too often ...




lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
http://www.stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=riflemen_bar_30_06_light_machine_gun_mp
http://www.stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=volksgrenadier_mp44_smg_mp
stop bias bar are better at long and same at close range
2 bar colpitly kill volks and
https://www.coh2.org/guides/29892/the-company-of-heroes-2-veterancy-guide
see the vet between volks and rifle
btw "we" means you only play usf ?
4 Jul 2016, 00:52 AM
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lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
http://www.stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=riflemen_bar_30_06_light_machine_gun_mp
http://www.stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=volksgrenadier_mp44_smg_mp
stop bias bar are better at long and same at close range
2 bar colpitly kill volks and
https://www.coh2.org/guides/29892/the-company-of-heroes-2-veterancy-guide
see the vet between volks and rifle
btw "we" means you only play usf ?



wtf stats ? you should play the game and not just watch the stats ...


i got a player card and you can cheak who i play with
4 Jul 2016, 06:57 AM
#17
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Pick up 2 or get destroyed;

4 Jul 2016, 14:34 PM
#18
avatar of Stug life

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jump backJump back to quoted post4 Jul 2016, 00:52 AMbicho1



wtf stats ? you should play the game and not just watch the stats ...


i got a player card and you can cheak who i play with
i play the game 2 bar beat Volks easy 1 bar lose only if you don't have similar cover
4 Jul 2016, 14:38 PM
#19
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So gud.
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