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Royal Engineers are op

15 May 2016, 14:17 PM
#1
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Their dps is higher then other units dps of similar cost or role like the ostherr pios

Their flamethrower does more damage vs bulidings then other flamethrowers


15 May 2016, 14:29 PM
#2
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15 May 2016, 15:26 PM
#3
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Is this a balance thread, or someone asking for help? Either way, it doesn't belong here.
15 May 2016, 15:41 PM
#4
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Dps yes, flamethrower should do the same as others?
16 May 2016, 22:04 PM
#5
avatar of FredFoshizzle

Posts: 28

You have to tech up and spend mp to get them don't you? As with the other engineer units, you get one for free right off the bat (which would give a small justification for them to have a bit of a higher dps).
16 May 2016, 22:09 PM
#6
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There's one thing remotely fair about RoyEs, and that's the fact they aren't T0.
16 May 2016, 22:13 PM
#7
avatar of Katitof

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T1 units are stronger then T0 units.

More news at 11.
16 May 2016, 22:25 PM
#8
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 May 2016, 22:13 PMKatitof
T1 units are stronger then T0 units.

More news at 11.


T1 penals stronger than T2 PGrens.

More news at 12.
16 May 2016, 22:27 PM
#9
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T1 penals stronger than T2 PGrens.

More news at 12.


Sure they are champ :snfPeter:

Just don't do hard drugs anymore :snfPeter:
16 May 2016, 22:28 PM
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16 May 2016, 22:29 PM
#11
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 May 2016, 22:27 PMKatitof


Sure they are champ :snfPeter:

Just don't do hard drugs anymore :snfPeter:


Haven't you played the preview? :hansGASM:
16 May 2016, 22:34 PM
#12
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Haven't you played the preview? :hansGASM:


Is the preview 100% confirmed to go life as it is? :snfQuinn:

Plus, the relation between PGs and penals is exactly the same as between rifles and SPs.
Rifles cost less, yet they often win, unless SPs jump them from behind los blocker.

Lets also ignore the "adaptable inf in multirole tier vs AI specialist in AI specialist tier" thing as well :snfPeter:
16 May 2016, 22:42 PM
#13
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 May 2016, 22:34 PMKatitof


Is the preview 100% confirmed to go life as it is? :snfQuinn:

Plus, the relation between PGs and penals is exactly the same as between rifles and SPs.
Rifles cost less, yet they often win, unless SPs jump them from behind los blocker.

Lets also ignore the "adaptable inf in multirole tier vs AI specialist in AI specialist tier" thing as well :snfPeter:


I hope most of goes life. :luvDerp:

I thought non-upgraded PGs were elite anti-infantry units, just like penals :megusta:

16 May 2016, 22:46 PM
#14
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I hope most of goes life. :luvDerp:

Me too :foreveralone:

I thought non-upgraded PGs were elite anti-infantry units, just like penals :megusta:



Possible shrecks provide too much utility :megusta:
Outcome still purely depends on the distance they start engagement.

If its on far, on the open, don't expect much from PGs.

Aaaand now I'll just cut it, because it kind of side-tracked from the T1 more expensive unit>T0 cheaper, starter unit being OP thing :romeoHairDay:
16 May 2016, 22:48 PM
#15
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 May 2016, 22:46 PMKatitof

Me too :foreveralone:



Possible shrecks provide too much utility :megusta:
Outcome still purely depends on the distance they start engagement.

If its on far, on the open, don't expect much from PGs.

Aaaand now I'll just cut it, because it kind of side-tracked from the T1 more expensive unit>T0 cheaper, starter unit being OP thing :romeoHairDay:


Well, we are on the same side here.

Tho I'd add Royal engies are cost effective, not OP :luvCarrot:
16 May 2016, 22:51 PM
#16
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 May 2016, 22:13 PMKatitof
T1 units are stronger then T0 units.
...

That is not very accurate...currently in live Grenadiers(T1) loses to riflemen(T0) and to I.S.(T0)
Penals (T1) lose to SP(T0). Tier is one factor, cost is another.
17 May 2016, 00:42 AM
#17
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Maybe they are a little bit strong. Their vet3 50% cheaper reinforce is the biggest problem IMO
17 May 2016, 00:59 AM
#18
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-I think i've reported several months ago the bug with the flamethrower. (Lazy to look for it atm)

-Reinforcement cost reduction at vet3 IS OP.

OP: while the subject is valid, next time try to raise the quality of the opening post.
17 May 2016, 01:02 AM
#19
avatar of Firesparks

Posts: 1930

the sapper's cost effectiveness is definitely higher than that of the pioneer and rear echelon, but it's still not strong enough to make the british faction themselves overpowered.
17 May 2016, 01:34 AM
#20
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[Generalization Incoming]


Why do good balance suggestions have such little support and the bad balance suggestions get a wall of text in their OP?
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