The SU needs a generalist medium vehicle

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2016, 16:57 PMBudwise

Compare the T34 to the Ost P4 and suddenly the T34 doesnt look so bad.

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2016, 17:24 PMRedT3rror

3x more DPS (far) on the machineguns, 1 sec less reload time for the main gun, Blitzkrieg with vet1 and armor increase with vet2. 10 penetration more, 0.50 lower scatter, 30 more armor points.

Still looks bad to me.

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2016, 17:36 PMBudwise

Now look at the price...

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2016, 17:51 PMRedT3rror

Gladly. Soviet will pay atleast 255 fuel for a T-34.

P4: -5+40+45+75+125= 280

But who plays without light vehicles and side upgrades?

Let's assume a scoutcar and a halftrack for Ostheer and Halftrack/T-70+ AT grenades for the soviets.

Soviets: +55 or 95 fuel
Ostheer: +65 fuel

I also find those 2 tanks hard to compare, as the T-34 can not scale into late game while the P4 is still excellent defensive tasks such as repelling infantry.

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2016, 17:55 PMsiuking666

Why are people even complaining about T34/76 all the time?

It costs 80 fuel as a MEDIUM.

Incredibly good for spamming, swarming heavies and hunting Pwerfer/Stuka.

You can even use it as capping harassment at vet 1.

I wish Axis has such a cheap ass medium to go hunting katyushas.

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2016, 17:56 PMHans G. Schultz

The only problem is there isn't really a good spot for it. T4 is a bit too late, while T3 is too early for it. Tier 3.5 is the only spot it would really fit.

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2016, 18:00 PMsiuking666

The timing is a bit weird but it's not useless at all.

It's a lovely tank to hunt werfer and swarm down Tigers/KT (Dont forget OP Ram )

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2016, 18:06 PMPurlictor

Why is T3 too early for the T-34/76? Hell, if you really want, you can make it require a ~40 fuel upgrade in T3 to unlock. Then everyone is happy.

T-34/76 has some very niche roles it fills, kind of a shame since this is pretty much the exact opposite it was IRL.

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2016, 18:18 PMStug life

kv-1 tier 4 with 140 pen mid

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2016, 18:21 PMHans G. Schultz

Instead, the Kv-1 could get a decrease in it's cp requirement, while still remaining in the doctrine.

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2016, 18:17 PMHans G. Schultz

Yea, I'd agree with the 20-50 fuel upgrade. T3 is too early because Wehrmacht players will complain about them being forced to go Schrecks (120 Muni), or Pak 40 (320 MP) every game when facing soviets. So really, idk, but it would piss off a lot of fanboys, and everyone knows to not piss off the fanboy army. They'll probably hack into the website, find your IP for suggesting it, then hunt you down using fake, replica, K98s, while also wearing paper mache stahlhelms.

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2016, 17:56 PMBudwise

80 fuel makes it one of the best bargains in the game...

Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2016, 17:56 PMBudwise

80 fuel makes it one of the best bargains in the game...