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useless commanders: Firestorm Doctrine

25 Jan 2016, 23:56 PM
#21
avatar of ausownage

Posts: 117

maybe relic will listen this time, because OP doctrins, like the others, will make money. If a doctrine like firestorm is useless relic makes no money, so change will come soon! :thumb:


Name one recent example where they 'listened'.
26 Jan 2016, 00:02 AM
#22
avatar of Vuther
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Name one recent example where they 'listened'.

They fixed Guards dancing like it was 1977 :foreveralone:
26 Jan 2016, 00:05 AM
#23
avatar of JohnSmith

Posts: 1273

That's probably some random side effect that they fixed unintentionally..
26 Jan 2016, 04:16 AM
#24
avatar of vietnamabc

Posts: 1063

That's probably some random side effect that they fixed unintentionally..

That "unintentional" bug has existed since release and it only got fixed a month ago (FYI, Captain also got the same syndrome when WFA was released).
26 Jan 2016, 06:04 AM
#25
avatar of IIGuderian

Posts: 128

They don't have a pz3 model For God's Sake
26 Jan 2016, 06:13 AM
#26
avatar of Plaguer

Posts: 498

Firestorm doctrine is a beast compared to Ostheers Infantry Doctrine, USFs recon company (or whateverthehell it's called), Soviet Defensive taktiks, NKVD, etcetc

The worst doctrine in the game imo is the German Infantry doctrine, that's the commander that should be changed, the only thing the Firestrom needs is a buff to Hezters firing arc, right now you can't dish out damage to moving units because it has to turn all the time
26 Jan 2016, 06:51 AM
#27
avatar of IA3 - HH

Posts: 289

They don't have a pz3 model For God's Sake


i think they must create pz3 model, today is a good day for start
26 Jan 2016, 09:09 AM
#28
avatar of JohnnyB

Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1

The Flammpanzer III would at least have a turret. I would've liked to see that one instead of the turretless tank.


Mounting a flamethrower on a turetless tank or a tank destroyer seems a bad idea from start.
I totaly agree with Flammpanzer III option. But I doubt Relic will listen.
27 Jan 2016, 06:24 AM
#29
avatar of edibleshrapnel

Posts: 552

jump backJump back to quoted post26 Jan 2016, 00:02 AMVuther

They fixed Guards dancing like it was 1977 :foreveralone:


:lol:
27 Jan 2016, 06:40 AM
#30
avatar of IA3 - HH

Posts: 289

Was approved. Create Flammpanzer III relic and replace with flamhetzer :)
27 Jan 2016, 06:45 AM
#31
avatar of Jadame!

Posts: 1122

Hetzer blows hard, even flame ht is better than that overpriced piece of czech engineering.

It should get better range and mobility, mb price decrease and damage increase on top of it or ideally remade into p3 with flamethrower.

Also where is my lovely jagdpanther and flak 88?
27 Jan 2016, 07:05 AM
#32
avatar of Australian Magic

Posts: 4630 | Subs: 2

Salvage is a joke? Lulz.
Best ability in game to deny enemies' crew weapons and you even get resources for this.
27 Jan 2016, 08:13 AM
#33
avatar of IA3 - HH

Posts: 289

Salvage is a joke? Lulz.
Best ability in game to deny enemies' crew weapons and you even get resources for this.


Salvage is best ability ?!!! when you select Firestorm Doctrine you dont have MG, so if you find mg or mortar you should take it not destroyed it for 5 mun, other armies have cache, with cache you can get more fuel or mun Permanently, also they have cheaper tanks and tech than OKW, instead Salvage relic must add convert fuel/munition
27 Jan 2016, 09:26 AM
#34
avatar of Pancake Areolas

Posts: 230

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Trash doctrine. Released garbage, is still garbage. Relic why even bother making new content if its just going to be trash? Nobody is going to buy useless commanders.
27 Jan 2016, 09:29 AM
#35
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17891 | Subs: 8

Trash doctrine. Released garbage, is still garbage. Relic why even bother making new content if its just going to be trash? Nobody is going to buy useless commanders.

So, basically you're crying, because doctrine isn't pay2win?
27 Jan 2016, 09:33 AM
#36
avatar of Kozokus

Posts: 301

Trash doctrine. Released garbage, is still garbage. Relic why even bother making new content if its just going to be trash? Nobody is going to buy useless commanders.


Well it is your opinion. I wonder on what it is based.
Do you want every new commander be OP? or just offer a new playstyle.

Kozo.
27 Jan 2016, 10:37 AM
#37
avatar of Sirlami
Donator 11

Posts: 422 | Subs: 3

Salvage is a joke? Lulz.
Best ability in game to deny enemies' crew weapons and you even get resources for this.


I think he ment the trough out salvage, the problem with that ability is that it takes too long to salvage the guns = Enemy inf can make it there in time to deny the salvage.
27 Jan 2016, 14:19 PM
#38
avatar of Pedro_Jedi

Posts: 543

I'd say Feuersturm is very far from useless. It just demands a different approach to your strategy.

I've recently tried a few times NKVD, which is surprisingly useful - if you adapt your strategy. As a bonus, usually the people are not used to face such commander and are often caught offguard. Very micro intensive though.

Right now, I think german infantry is definitely one of the worse commanders. If it had, exchanging, for example, fragmentation bombing for the jaeger light package, man, what a difference it would make
27 Jan 2016, 14:59 PM
#39
avatar of MATRAKA14

Posts: 118

Useless:
NKVD Rifle Disruption Tactics
Conscripts Support Tactics
Defensive Tactics


need tweaks:
Urban Defense Tactics
Soviet Industry Tactics (kv2)


with some unit/ability not working properly:
Advanced Warfare Tactics (il2 broken)
Counterattack Tactics (B4/Kv1 performance and b4 animation)


The rest are fine or can be fixed with T4 t34/85
27 Jan 2016, 19:33 PM
#40
avatar of Pancake Areolas

Posts: 230

Permanently Banned
jump backJump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 09:29 AMKatitof

So, basically you're crying, because doctrine isn't pay2win?

Nah, because its trash and you know it.
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