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OKW - Close combet unit

23 Jan 2016, 22:16 PM
#21
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obers with STG are long range and in close combat are very weak


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23 Jan 2016, 22:53 PM
#22
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shows how much you know about the game, thread closed


DONT TAKE THE BAIT :facepalm:
24 Jan 2016, 00:25 AM
#23
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Dis is gud idea
24 Jan 2016, 07:34 AM
#24
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obers with STG are long range and in close combat are very weak

Are you out of your mind? They are badass ESPECIALLY at close range. I think the highest dps in the game. You've clearly been playing wrong.
24 Jan 2016, 07:40 AM
#25
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Sturmpios: if they had a bit lower veterancy requirement, would be fine with stun nades.
Pfussies with G43: cost effective
StG obers: they melt steel beams
Falls: effective dps at all ranges
Cancer nades
Assault nades: mainly cause they are cheap n spammbale.

24 Jan 2016, 08:18 AM
#26
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obers are "badass ESPECIALLY" !!! :)
24 Jan 2016, 08:39 AM
#27
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obers are probably the coolest infantry in game. A shame they don't have better voice acting, as its currently quite bland.
24 Jan 2016, 09:32 AM
#28
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I think that he is asking for an unit that works like comandos, upgraded rangers or shock troops. While pzgrenadiers, sturms and stg obers do a good damage at this range, this ones arent the kind of unit that tries to get too close and forces to retreat, they can and do sometimes, but not like the allied ones since this ones look more focushed on mid range. One axis unit that already exist and works like that are assault grenadiers, even if they arent too efective on his job
24 Jan 2016, 09:37 AM
#29
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Every faction is not supposed to have the same things.
24 Jan 2016, 09:41 AM
#30
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obers are "badass ESPECIALLY" !!! :)


TBH, you'd better focus on the part YOU posted, that made you look like a total fool and tore all your potential credibility away instead of nitpicking half sentence out of context. :romeoMug:
24 Jan 2016, 09:51 AM
#31
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Every faction is not supposed to have the same things.

I would say the same until british appeared
24 Jan 2016, 09:56 AM
#32
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I would say the same until british appeared


What is british rocket arty?

British stock CQC unit?

British elite infantry that scales?

British super heavy TD?

British equivalent to Tiger/IS2?

Brits lack fair share of stuff other armies have, they simply don't lack as much in late game as other allied armies.
24 Jan 2016, 10:28 AM
#33
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No, but they have weapon racks, usf tech, and a ton of multiple skills copied, not caring if from axis or allied, its still a copy
24 Jan 2016, 10:48 AM
#34
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spios are strong close ranged units. it turns out that they're also decent at mid range.
24 Jan 2016, 11:34 AM
#35
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Jan 2016, 07:34 AMRappy

Are you out of your mind? They are badass ESPECIALLY at close range. I think the highest dps in the game. You've clearly been playing wrong.


Obers with StGs deal ~60 DPS at close range. Shocks deal 85 DPS (according to http://www.coh2-stats.com ).

Commandos deal 80 DPS (according to http://stat.coh2.hu/ because http://www.coh2-stats.com hasn't been updated with brit units yet)


jump backJump back to quoted post23 Jan 2016, 17:32 PMKuprix
Just keep in mind that Obers with STG44 do not suppress.


They do.

You shouldn't have an issue with allied infantry, especially with how invincible volks become at vet 4.


Vet 1: -10% received accuracy
Vet 2: +30% accuracy, -20% weapon cooldown
Vet 3: Passive Healing, -10% received accuracy
Vet 4: +20% sight range, +15% accuracy
Vet 5: -20% cooldown

Yeah, that vet 4 bonus surely makes them so much more durable :foreveralone:

Also: Volks have the worst received accuracy vet bonuses of all infantry squads. Even REs have lower received accuracy at vet 3.
24 Jan 2016, 11:56 AM
#36
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Vet 1: -10% received accuracy
Vet 2: +30% accuracy, -20% weapon cooldown
Vet 3: Passive Healing, -10% received accuracy
Vet 4: +20% sight range, +15% accuracy
Vet 5: -20% cooldown

Yeah, that vet 4 bonus surely makes them so much more durable :foreveralone:

Also: Volks have the worst received accuracy vet bonuses of all infantry squads. Even REs have lower received accuracy at vet 3.


you and your data. i mean, since the OP is going solely off of feel, can't i do that as well?

point taken, though high-vet volks still seem insanely durable in the late game.
24 Jan 2016, 12:04 PM
#37
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you and your data. i mean, since the OP is going solely off of feel, can't i do that as well?


Fair enough. I just thought I'd add some actual info instead of... well, what OP did :D

24 Jan 2016, 12:13 PM
#38
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Jan 2016, 17:32 PMKuprix
Just keep in mind that Obers with STG44 do not suppress.


Just keep in mind they do.
24 Jan 2016, 19:28 PM
#39
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Obers with StGs deal ~60 DPS at close range. Shocks deal 85 DPS (according to http://www.coh2-stats.com ).

Commandos deal 80 DPS (according to http://stat.coh2.hu/ because http://www.coh2-stats.com hasn't been updated with brit units yet)


Statement should be: STG IR are the highest CQC DPS against units in cover in the game. They practically ignore accuracy cover modifiers, including garrison. From 0.5/0.55 to 0.9 IIRC.

jump backJump back to quoted post23 Jan 2016, 17:32 PMKuprix
Just keep in mind that Obers with STG44 do not suppress.

jump backJump back to quoted post24 Jan 2016, 12:13 PMNEVEC
Just keep in mind they do.

They do.


Notice that's almost negligible prior to vet4.
24 Jan 2016, 19:41 PM
#40
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Vetted Sturmpios?

STG Obers?

Falls?

G43 Fusiliers?

Flame and assault grenades?

Such a lack of options, mang.
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