Too bad when ost sniper gets nerfed for brits, it will be garbage vs soviet players.
Not every unit is useful vs. every army.
Snipers, Enemy Squad Sizes, and Rate of Fire
18 Jul 2015, 17:24 PM
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Not every unit is useful vs. every army.
18 Jul 2015, 18:12 PM
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Not every unit is useful vs. every army.
We know that, we have far to many of those 'units' in game.
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18 Jul 2015, 18:40 PM
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Too bad when ost sniper gets nerfed for brits, it will be garbage vs soviet players.
Thats why people want a form of target table which adjusts the time it takes to kill squads of different sizes.
So effectivity vs soviets wouldnt decrease.
18 Jul 2015, 18:47 PM
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Permanently BannedI would also like to suggest 222 getting increased accuracy vs soviet sniper as they have to chase them across the map to even kill 1 man rarely ever kills the second.
Thats why people want a form of target table which adjusts the time it takes to kill squads of different sizes.
So effectivity vs soviets wouldnt decrease.
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18 Jul 2015, 18:59 PM
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Adjusting sniper fire rates to different squads would be a terrible blow to Osttruppen...
18 Jul 2015, 19:25 PM
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18 Jul 2015, 19:47 PM
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And what about adjusting sniper fire rate to faction so they won't be OP against British but still be able to fight Soviet effectively and ostruppent won't be utter shit.
18 Jul 2015, 23:03 PM
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@Sherlock.
That's not even mentioning the various allied 4-man squads like USF weapon teams.
Why attack a sniper at a great distance with a 4 man squad? This is where logic and people miss the train. What you need to do is gather your little war party (2, 4 man squads) use one as bait and ambush with the other. It's called improvising.
18 Jul 2015, 23:08 PM
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Here's another solution, nerf the Ostheer sniper then give axis a vehicle that can counter snipers like say hmmmmm and m freagin 3a1? You guys have all the tools, build order, etc early game at your fingertips to deal with this. Jeep cj51 (USF Call In) even counters snipers early game. I mean what else do you think should be nerfed to heck?
18 Jul 2015, 23:22 PM
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^^
It only works in theory.
WC-51 is utter shit...even an M20 can't kill a retreating sniper (yes mine surived the chase).
Some maps are perfect for snipers and countering them on those aren't the easiest thing to do.
Saw some nasty shock flank on the sniper got his ass whopped by 6 SMGs...still survives.
It only works in theory.
WC-51 is utter shit...even an M20 can't kill a retreating sniper (yes mine surived the chase).
Some maps are perfect for snipers and countering them on those aren't the easiest thing to do.
Saw some nasty shock flank on the sniper got his ass whopped by 6 SMGs...still survives.
18 Jul 2015, 23:27 PM
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Even a Greyhound sometimes can't kill a retreating sniper. He survived Canister Shot onetime too.
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19 Jul 2015, 02:43 AM
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just baby sit ur sniper with a gren, and have the gren faust any light vheicles that try to bumrush the snipers. ez.
19 Jul 2015, 18:02 PM
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Ohhh man oh man. Since relase we had to deal with snipers in clown cars. With no real counter. Then when it came to the double snipers. Shortly supported by a con or two with AT nades, and or guards. We only had an RNG motor to counter. Axis players has to L2p. Well shoot. What goes around comes around??
19 Jul 2015, 18:09 PM
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Keep in mind, 1 SU sniper vs grens brings the squad performance down considerably. 2 SU snipers vs grens cause insta retreat. Add other situations such as a firefight with cons or guards. Then the damage is even further. It isn't far off to see a pair having 30 or more kills each to this day.
19 Jul 2015, 20:53 PM
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Keep in mind, 1 SU sniper vs grens brings the squad performance down considerably. 2 SU snipers vs grens cause insta retreat. Add other situations such as a firefight with cons or guards. Then the damage is even further. It isn't far off to see a pair having 30 or more kills each to this day.
Meanwhile, you need 1 ost sniper for the same effect on USF if you don't want to bleed menpower like a pig.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
19 Jul 2015, 22:36 PM
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Meanwhile, you need 1 ost sniper for the same effect on USF if you don't want to bleed menpower like a pig.
What if I said "it's part of the game" as simple as it sounds. I don't think people like the visual effect of "1" Man doing all that work. But you know what, its micro.
19 Jul 2015, 22:44 PM
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What if I said "it's part of the game" as simple as it sounds. I don't think people like the visual effect of "1" Man doing all that work. But you know what, its micro.
It won't be "micro" when brits come out, it'll be "imbalance of a level of first month MG42 and infantry crush T-70".
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
20 Jul 2015, 01:45 AM
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We both was in alpha bro, we all know British have a unit very very similar to what OH and SU have
20 Jul 2015, 01:57 AM
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We both was in alpha bro, we all know British have a unit very very similar to what OH and SU have
Meanwhile Ost still has the mp, fuel, VP, and map advantage before Brits are able to tech. Also, where does the mp come for a sniper? The sniper in a ghillie suit with worse camo time than Soviet sniper?
20 Jul 2015, 03:31 AM
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We both was in alpha bro, we all know British have a unit very very similar to what OH and SU have
If you were in alpha, then you should know how overperforming the ostheer sniper was against brits.
The argument used to be that Ostheer sniper needed a fast rof to compensate for 6 man squads, but that argument doesn't work against the British units which are also expensive.
I want you to go and play a mirror match ostheer vs. Ostheer. See how quickly the ostheer sniper whittle down squads.
I refuse the notion that you can't figure out why the osheer sniper is much more powerful against 4 man squads than the soviet sniper has ever been.
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