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Commissar abilities bug

6 Jan 2022, 09:47 AM
#1
avatar of Vipper

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The commissar abilities:
"Not One Step Back"
"Hold the Line"

can now be used on snipers
6 Jan 2022, 10:17 AM
#2
avatar of Katukov

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hold the line is basically useless as you slow down the sniper


not one step back grants the ability a marginal, slight rate of fire bonus that is basically indistinguishable from the normal sniper. It also makes the sniper more vulnerable to incoming fire



a bug that really doesn't impact gameplay much, if at all
6 Jan 2022, 10:19 AM
#3
avatar of Vipper

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hold the line is basically useless as you slow down the sniper


not one step back grants the ability a marginal, slight rate of fire bonus that is basically indistinguishable from the normal sniper. It also makes the sniper more vulnerable to incoming fire



a bug that really doesn't impact gameplay much, if at all

It a bug and it should be removed.

You are also wrong about the bonuses and their impact...
6 Jan 2022, 11:08 AM
#4
avatar of Vipper

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Commissar can also crew support weapons.
MMX
6 Jan 2022, 12:16 PM
#5
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Interesting. I think the 50% reduced cooldown of "Not One Step Back" could come in handy. Not sure how much of a DPS boost this equates to exactly, but probably something in the range of 20 - 25%... not bad at all, even though the additional 20% RA debuff can be absolutely lethal in many situations. Can't see any good reason to ever use "Hold The Line" on a sniper, though.
Anyway, considering this interaction - unintended or not - is rather of situational usefulness I'd also say there isn't really much of an issue.
6 Jan 2022, 12:41 PM
#6
avatar of rumartinez89

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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Jan 2022, 09:47 AMVipper
The commissar abilities:
"Not One Step Back"
"Hold the Line"

can now be used on snipers


It has been usable on snipers since at least the feb/mar 2021 winter patch. It is an ok boost that requires lots of micro between two support units. To get the most benefit it would require using conscripts with sniper for screening and snares while also keeping MP usage to a minimum. The downside is obviously the lack of early pushing power and near elite performance of Penals when used in conjunction with the Commissar.
6 Jan 2022, 13:14 PM
#7
avatar of Vipper

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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Jan 2022, 12:16 PMMMX
Interesting. I think the 50% reduced cooldown of "Not One Step Back" could come in handy. Not sure how much of a DPS boost this equates to exactly, but probably something in the range of 20 - 25%... not bad at all, even though the additional 20% RA debuff can be absolutely lethal in many situations. Can't see any good reason to ever use "Hold The Line" on a sniper, though.
Anyway, considering this interaction - unintended or not - is rather of situational usefulness I'd also say there isn't really much of an issue.

If the bonus applies properly it should reduce ROF significantly by around 1.9 secs, the bonus would be close to the total CD bonus of VET 3 sniper.
6 Jan 2022, 20:41 PM
#8
avatar of Katukov

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a sniper with the buff and a sniper without the increased dps boost are almost identical, but the buffed sniper shoots slightly faster


and slowing down your sniper intentionally is completely pointless.

Vipper got destroyed by a soviet reserve army -> t1 starter and complains about it as a bug
6 Jan 2022, 21:10 PM
#9
avatar of Vipper

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a sniper with the buff and a sniper without the increased dps boost are almost identical, but the buffed sniper shoots slightly faster

and slowing down your sniper intentionally is completely pointless.

Vipper got destroyed by a soviet reserve army -> t1 starter and complains about it as a bug

PLS leave your imaginary theories/scenarios out of the bug section.

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