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by Kyle 7th July 2015, 01:37 AM
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7 Jul 2015, 04:37 AM
#1
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Hello guys, I just want to ask 1 question: Is there any kind of map-hack/ tools in this game at the moment?

I want to know because last game we play against some guys and seems like they always know our location, whenever we moved up or go down, they can arty every place.

If they are that good to read out mind, sure it was a pleasure against such good players. But It's too much even for a good players to know the position too well like that.

7 Jul 2015, 10:52 AM
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If you post a few specific times where you have some doubts then I'll have a look for sure.
7 Jul 2015, 10:56 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Jul 2015, 04:37 AMKyle
Hello guys, I just want to ask 1 question: Is there any kind of map-hack/ tools in this game at the moment?

I want to know because last game we play against some guys and seems like they always know our location, whenever we moved up or go down, they can arty every place.

If they are that good to read out mind, sure it was a pleasure against such good players. But It's too much even for a good players to know the position too well like that.



Yes it is possible. It's cost money but it is possible. But I did not watched your replay to say he has or not.
7 Jul 2015, 11:31 AM
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what were the names of those guys?

me and quentin walked into a duo that had vision over the whole map too, knew exactly where we were and when to retreath, what way to place paks etc.
7 Jul 2015, 18:14 PM
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Yes it is possible. It's cost money but it is possible. But I did not watched your replay to say he has or not.


Holy shit.

I just sat down and watch the whole replay from the point of view and it was... wow: either they are X-man or they are super saya.

At 33 mins, we move our tanks ( T34/85mm + Su85 + ISU ) to upper and wow, they ALSO moved all of their tank up there.

At 38,44 and 46 mins they even fire stuka like they know where are gonna come there or at our stationary repair unit.

I don't know, I smell bullshit from this :D. Anyone care to watch from 33 mins => 46 mins ?

what were the names of those guys?

me and quentin walked into a duo that had vision over the whole map too, knew exactly where we were and when to retreath, what way to place paks etc.


Those 2 players are:

- KinderpartySmackdown

- Holocoaster

http://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/viewBoard/2/steamid/76561198002817574


If you post a few specific times where you have some doubts then I'll have a look for sure.


If you watch from 33 mins from their point of view ( turn off fog war, you gonna start to see it :D )
7 Jul 2015, 18:37 PM
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This is not the first time that Andy Mösen and Kinderparty Smackdown got accused of maphacking (I played versus them either and they were able to dodge every demo, mine etc.). I think COH2.ORG is the wrong place to investigate in such matters though. If I remember correctly you should send a message which contains as much evidence as possible to enforcement@relic.com if you believe your opponents used hacks and so on.
7 Jul 2015, 20:15 PM
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It's a good thing that all these maphackers are complete trash :snfPeter:

And yes, i'm pretty sure there are maphacks in this game. And even if there aren't any, it would probably be fairly easy to make one with the right type of knowledge. (Just look at the replay file being written).
7 Jul 2015, 20:42 PM
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This is not the first time that Andy Mösen and Kinderparty Smackdown got accused of maphacking (I played versus them either and they were able to dodge every demo, mine etc.). I think COH2.ORG is the wrong place to investigate in such matters though. If I remember correctly you should send a message which contains as much evidence as possible to enforcement@relic.com if you believe your opponents used hacks and so on.


Do you have a form or how to report hacker to Relic?

jump backJump back to quoted post7 Jul 2015, 20:15 PMBurts
It's a good thing that all these maphackers are complete trash :snfPeter:

And yes, i'm pretty sure there are maphacks in this game. And even if there aren't any, it would probably be fairly easy to make one with the right type of knowledge. (Just look at the replay file being written).


Yeah I must say the same: If I was using map hack like them, I would just use the Panther and infantry to move down the lower VP and cut everything.

This people are dumb, I would rape them hard without their hack on lol.
7 Jul 2015, 21:17 PM
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Ehh this video was awfully suspicious, especially timestamps 33 & 46. I would pass this replay onto relic.
7 Jul 2015, 21:19 PM
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I removed the taskbar so player names are not involved.

There are 2 barrages near the beginning. The 2nd one (stuka) you can see the target reticle on the tac-map for an instant before it fires. It's below the last sighted location of the su-85.

Skip to 3:30 for the last one, which was a double barrage. I couldn't skip ahead without the taskbar.

Just to be clear this was 44-46 in the replay file.
7 Jul 2015, 21:36 PM
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Pathetic scum that resort to using cheats in game. Really sad tbh.
7 Jul 2015, 21:37 PM
#12
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coh2.org is not the place for hacking accusations, as mentioned before you'll have to submit the replay to Relic. I'd include the player's names and steam IDs as well as as much other information as possible - perhaps what time/location the suspicious actions take place.

I've experienced those guys attack grounding EVERY mine I ever planted in games before despite NEVER upgrading sweepers.

Take that for what you will.

Too bad they're still trash status and I beat them every time.
7 Jul 2015, 21:46 PM
#13
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I removed the taskbar so player names are not involved.

There are 2 barrages near the beginning. The 2nd one (stuka) you can see the target reticle on the tac-map for an instant before it fires. It's below the last sighted location of the su-85.

Skip to 3:30 for the last one, which was a double barrage. I couldn't skip ahead without the taskbar.

Just to be clear this was 44-46 in the replay file.


That last one was very suspicious. If you look at the dot on the tactical map the barrage is bulls eyed on the top of the ISU-152.
8 Jul 2015, 03:36 AM
#17
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once u learn to play ur units start to do amazing things
8 Jul 2015, 03:54 AM
#18
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First off, you two were some pro mine dodgers yourself. Look at your own crap before you start trying to call people out. Evryone please take a look at the magical shot of the teller when he killed Jadgtiger numero uno. Second off, you can hear repairs through fog genius, and you had shit hiding behind that building constantly. You are just butt hurt you got owned after your own so called "pro" capping being everywhere we weren't (Like us walking away and then magically a unit walking up to cap as soon as we leave SUSPICOUS FOR SURE).



So you are also accused me of using map-hack as well? Good, why don't we both send our Demo back to Relic ( enforcement@relic.com ) and see which one gonna get banned? ( If Relic still bother to check for hacker )

Also, like I said, I'm in doubt that you are map-hack but not really sure, that's why I'm asking other people for opinion ( And somehow, people said they you have been accused before this demo too, weird isn't it? ).

Lastly, Not just the arty, the way you people moved the Jadtiger up when we started to move our units up too smell a bit of bullshit. Also, we might hide behind the same house, you people ALWAYS arty RIGHT ON 100% my UNITS for not just one but 3 times, come on, how can we say it's not ?

But hey, ain't my job to say your are a hacker or not. I just smell something not right and I'm gonna send this to Relic for them to check: if you are not hacker then great, we play against good players. if you are hacker then it's a shame lol.

P/S: Remember, other people also accused you of map-hack, not me alone. At the moment, there are more people on my boat then yours ;).

Next time, learn to reply with a cool mind, speaking like that ain't gonna help you when there are more then 3 people in doubt here.
8 Jul 2015, 04:16 AM
#19
avatar of Kyle

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I haven send emails to Relic about this case and I will wait for their reply.

Like I said, I'm not 100% sure if they are hacking or not. If not then yes, It was a pleasure against such good players like them. if yes they did hack then it was a shame.

P/S: To be honest I'm kinda used to hackers after playing CS:GO.

P/S2: if you WANT TO REPORT ME USING MAP HACK ( I can't believe that some people finally call it, it feels like I'm too good :( ) then please send Relic the following detail to report about me

" Hi there,

Thank-you for your report - we're sorry to hear that you've had an unpleasant player encounter in our game. Our team will investigate the report and take appropriate action where necessary. Please note that due to privacy concerns we cannot provide details regarding what action is taken, but we do take these reports seriously. In some cases our team may contact you again to ask for further details or evidence. Please ensure that your report includes the following information:

- date and time of the incident (including the specific time zone)
- screenshots and replays of the incident, and a time-stamp of when the incident occurs in the replay file
- which version of the game you're running
- a full description of what you feel the violation is, and why this violates player behavior guidelines

If your report already includes all of the above information, there is no need to reply to thus message further. While all unpleasant encounters are problematic, we are only able to investigate and follow up on reports that provide us with full evidence needed to conduct an investigation.

Thank You!
The Relic Enforcement Team "

The demo you can just download on this page and then send it to Relic!

P/S3: Mom it's happening, people calling me hack map in COH2 now, I'm finally better.
8 Jul 2015, 07:39 AM
#20
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Posts: 1701

lol this raging hacker, facepalm XD
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