Hi all,
So, I wanted to discuss the ost/sov HT veterancy bonuses and exp requirements.
The boni (bigger reinforce circle, faster movement, greater sight) are in a good place if we consider the HT role to be reinforcement and transport. BUT, its damn near impossible to attain the veterancy for Ost & Sov HTs due to their pitiful dmg output in their default states. The solution seems to be to decrease their exp requirement BUT thats no good, because otherwise they'll get faster movement and sight with their upgrades and become all round infantry killers very quickly.
At the same time, some of the same bonuses are a bit redundant after they have upgraded with AA upgrade/Flamer upgrade (bigger sight, bigger reinforce) because they can not reinforce with upgrades.
My suggestion: How about having the upgrade convert the units into a different unit like the 221 converted into 222 with the autocannon upgrade? Is it possible that this can reset the veterancy? I'm suggesting this because the current vet requirements are fine for the upgraded HTs but not vanilla HTs. And if we lower the exp requirements so that transport HTs upgrade, that'll indirectly buff the upgraded HTs. Thus my suggestion of converting units.
TL;DR: HT veterancy is impossible to attain as transports, we need to do something. Lets brainstorm a solution so we can suggest to relic. |
+1 sweet idea OP |
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Done |
Ty Cruzz, this was sorely needed. How about getting one out every patch? (knowing relic, there WILL be new bugs in the patch)
I will help in any way I can |
I think emplacements are fine as is, they work well. Problem is two things which counter them way too easily:
1) One OKW ISG beats the UKF mortar emplacement in a straight fight. Goes without saying that it hard-counters the bofors & 17pdr emplacements too. With the IsG meta as stronk as it is nowadays, well....
2) Flames. UKF emplacements take 3x intended dmg from flame weapons and flame attacks cause of a bug in the files. This + OKW volk flame nades or Ost mortar HT = recipe for disaster.
Its really bad vs OKW mostly. As an ost player and when playing UKF against Ost [when ost player doesn't go for mortar HT doc], well located emplacements can really shine. |
Thise change would affect Ostheer more because you see ML20, B4 more often than the LefH.
Also there are more OP commanders balance wise (Vanguard, Rifle Company) that would rather needs adjustments than Recon & Bomb combo.
That is all true and good, but shouldn't there be a distinct, separate thread for that discussion? |
Yeah I mean, I know the pain of crocs, and air superority and other brit gimmicks, but hopefully new patch will fix. I'm more concerned about how IS will cost less to reinforce than grens after that patch |
You talk about bombing runs yes?
I don't think people have problem with them delivering one hit kills on arty, what is problematic here is the EASE to deliver the killing strike because of the reckon planes.
Yes exactly so, thats exactly what I am against. |
Just that they should not be in the ISU/Ele doctrines. Give these docs something else.
Or at least not with recon in the mix. I mean, sneaking near enough my fixed arty to get LoS to call in a bomber; fine. Spending 80 muni extra and calling in bomber at first pass of the spotter? No thanks. |
rage much?
And to be constructive, the new patch will sort out most of your issues |