didnt you read what i already said?
Finland fought 2 wars vs soviets and the other was 3 years long 1941 to 1944 so there was plenty of summer fighting so forget about this "1.5 week". Really what are you guys talking about blaming the casulties on "poor clothing, poor training, poor officers" isnt that the thing i said? they basicly came in suicide waves.. there is fucking pictures from finland of mass soviet soldiers charging on open fields and getting cut down.
By the way finland was poor equipped and poorly trained, the army was mostly made up of farmers and peasants who was trained how to fire a rifle and that was it.
The mannherheim line was built for 13 years. 13 years. I'm trying to dissolve the myth that soviets charged mindlessly into the enemy. While i'm not denying the fact that something like that might of happened a few times, some people think that this was the standart WW2 tactic. The reason why soviets failed so hard because they had no winter equipment , there were cases of bad mapping,bad leadership and many other things. .For example soviet maps didin't even have forests marked in some places. That is for the winter war. While its true that finnish soldiers were not trained. however its much easier to defend in a winter than to attack (especially if your opponent lacks proper winter equipment) , however Finland atleast had competent generals on their side, while the soviets had all their generals purged.
I'm not trying to make it seem like the finnish did nothing , finns did stand up heroicly againts a much bigger enemy, and they protected their freedom. However i'm trying to stop the myth that soviets had no tactics which is what apparently some people think.
Soviets by 1942 had learned their lesson, there were new , competent generals coming up. And by 1943, we all know who was winning the war.
Also, is someone really trying to base their WW2 facts on Enemy at the gates? What the fuck.
Not only was that movie a bit ahistorical (I'm not denying that soviets had lack of rifles and stuff, the reason they lacked rifles becasue they had a ton of them at the start of the war, but german blitzkrieg went fast they captured alot, however unarmed troops would rarely if ever be sent to combat), everything about that movie is fucking retarded. Every single thing.
If you want a real ww2 movie go watch the movie stalingrad made in 1993,one of the few ww2 movies that is actually from the german perspective. the new Stalingrad movie is also complete dog shit.
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