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good thing u guys keeps the thread going : )
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'The Panzer V (Panther) was one vehicle which showed the effect of Hitler’s direct
interference. Drawings and prototypes of tanks heavier than the Panzer IV had been produced
by several companies, but the Supreme Command had shown no interest, declaring that there
was no need for them. The T-34 soon proved the OKW’s declaration to be untrue. There was a
need for a heavier German tank and that need was urgent. Production of the Panzer V began
during November 1942, and the first vehicles to be produced showed weaknesses resulting
from rushed development. Guderian warned, during his lecture, that the fundamental faults in
the Panzer V were of so serious a nature that the vehicle could not enter troop service until July
1943. Hitler was impatient to bring the new machine into service and actually postponed
Operation ‘Citadel’, the German offensive against Kursk, in order to use the Panther as the
principal weapon in that operation. The routes of advance to the Kursk battlefield were marked
with broken-down Panthers whose transmissions had not been able to cope with the great
weight they had to bear, and other tanks which had caught fire because of faults in the cooling
system. The poor performance of the Panthers was acknowledged in a High Command
memorandum which went on to highlight the fault of German production methods: ‘The demand
for replacement parts [for the Panzer V] could not be met … without interfering with production
of the vehicles…’ |


this last one is very good
you notice how veterans the german were when they start to enter deep in russian territory
you see it in their eyes .
then the russian horde war machine broke through . the end . |

T-70, 9 May Parade 2017, Upper Pishma

T-60, 9 May Parade 2017, Upper Pishma 
T-28, 9 May Parade 2017, Upper Pishma 
BT, 9 May Parade 2017, Upper Pishma (tracks unequipped and we can look one of two modes of moving for this tank)

IS-2 (mod.1944), 9 May Parade 2017, Upper Pishma 
SU-76, 9 May Parade 2017, Upper Pishma

SU-100, 9 May Parade 2017, Upper Pishma 
ISU-152, 9 May Parade 2017, Upper Pishma

9 May Parade 2017, Upper Pishma

9 May Parade 2017, Upper Pishma 
Len-lease Jeep and m-42 (maybe) 9 May Parade 2017, Upper Pishma 
9 May Parade 2017, Upper Pishma

ML-20 and tractor "Stalinec",9 May Parade 2017, Upper Pishma 
9 May Parade 2017, Upper Pishma (inscriptions from up to down "Stalinec" and "Diesel") 
Zis-3,9 May Parade 2017, Upper Pishma
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can you guys imagine what kind of weapons germany would have created if they won the war ?
if they were already ahead in terms of jet planes imagine the rest ... |
Breaking away from the Banking World, not so good when you can´t fight of their debt horses.
can you be more specific ? |
he would won, if:
1. don´t let the UK troops run away from dunkirchen >> brits would had no army
2. concentrate to enter the UK from 2 sites
3. kill the noob mussolini>> then the germans must not fought in greece and north africa >>> would concquer moskow befor general winter
4. let the gernals make the desicions
5. concentrate on mass production from panthers and pz4
very good summary . a + |
In my opinion the biggest mistake was turning the USA against him. The lend lease and general support the Western Allies provided is known to few. The USA alone provided Equipment worth billions to the Soviet Union, and that is not adjusted for inflation.
As I read, there was never any official account of what Lend-Lease delivered, and a lot of it was 'smuggled' as well, however I've seen a study not too long ago that estimated it at around 11 billion dollars worth. Adjusted for inflation that is 190 billion dollars today. That is the USA alone. People overestimate the Economy of the Soviet Union a lot and at the same time underestimate that of the USA and of Germany too. The biggest problem the Germans had was manpower in the factories, had there been more manpower available for Germany they would actually have outproduced the Soviet Union, and they did so in some areas, even though Germany did not mobilize to a war economy before 1943. The Soviet Union also lost 90% of their oil supply to the Germans or destroyed it themselves in 1942 however the western Allies stepped up and delivered Oil and refined Fuel through Iran.
According to another study I've read conducted by the CIA the Germans had a very good shot at winning the war in the east, however this was vaguely formulated.
also good points . |
In a nutshell:
- Started war too early, the Wehrmacht was still developing by the time the invasion of Poland happened. The majority of the tank force was stop-gap training tanks like the early Panzer IIs. The Wehrmacht should have been properly built up and then tested in a minor brushfire conflict in a faraway land nobody cares about.
From there, Hitler had 2 options for conquest. Go take France and piss off the western world or go take the SU with very little other enemies.
- Invade Soviet Union. Don't dick around at Stalingrad.
OR
- Invade France and in the battle of Britain, Hitler shouldn't have focused so heavily on terror and civilian targets and instead should have focused on military targets only. During the BoB, tons of radar stations and airfields were left untouched because Hitler wanted to focus on civilian population centers to break their will to fight. remove the threat first, little corporal.
- The Kriegsmarine was neglected. It should have been built up before any major war efforts were made. Naval landings, bombardments, and the protection of shipping lanes hurt Germany A LOT.
- Then there's a bunch of late war REALLY bad mistakes but you could fill a book with those.
good points . |
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i dont wanna be kill joy but some of these are reposts , meaning me or someone had already share them .
but keep em coming , maybe it will be a new one .
p.s - its privilege to have so much information on ww2 , books and pictures i mean , if you search hard enough you can learn a lot . Graces to everyone that could survive the ww2 ordeal to tell and share his / hers stories and pictures so future generations could understand better was going on . |