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I thougth that the only thing that they don't get is the armour. So you can merge safely penals, support crews and guards if I'm not mistaken.
If you merge with Shocks you lose their armour, which is not a good exchange.
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ZiS fires slowly as hell, does less damage and has to fight agaisnt better armored tanks than the Pak. Arty barrage compensates that, is really ammo expensive and after first shell you should be dumb to don't move away.
Soviet sniper is clearly better than the axis one in my opinion, but axis infantry has much better long range damage, so instead of trying to countersnipe soviet snipers try to flank and force a retreat where you have high chances to kill them while running to base.
Btw, axis snipers are great for dealing against Shocks who can't do a shit long range damage. |
Ok, nerf that fuckin' Katiusha back and the wurframen together with it. This is getting silly and out of control. Fuck both units, tone them down and reduce a little from wurframen cost, at least.
Finally a sensible opinion here.
To both units, tone down damage + add suppresion = equal blob control + less squads wipes + less damage to buildings = everyone happy
As someone pointed above, potential squad wipes and heavy building/vehicle damage should be exclusive to howitzers and B4. |
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I don't have any complains with this map, but I would like to be able to veto more than 4 maps. |
OKW find T1, snipers especially, very difficult to deal with.
To add up, penals/engies (w flamers) inside M3 can kill retreating Sturmpios and Volks squads. That is a great blow for a OKW player to come back.
Don't charge against full health Sturmpios squads, chip their health from afar and then get close to finish them off with the flamer. |
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First of all, I hate Crossing the Woods against OKW. I'll recommend to veto that map.
I usually play 2vs2, and the build order that has given me the best results against OKW is that:
Conscripts -> T1 -> Penal+M3+Penal+Sniper+Sniper -> T2 -> ZiS+Maxim+(ZiS or Shocks)
You will need good micro with the M3 and you have to lure your enemy's first Flak HT or Puma to your ZiS. Upgrade flamethrowers to all penals en engie too.
If you succefully destroyed his first vehicles you can try to go T3. If not, make at least two ZiS and go for the T34/85 call-in.
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LOL, I must be some kind of prophet.
They are bashing you because you don't have 1000 post in the forum, but it's really true that you foresaw what will happen with katyusha and right now it's hilarious to see how opinions have changed so much in only 48 hours.
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I'd rather say 70-80% of the CoH2.org crowd play all factions and that there's a minority of "one-faction-only" players immune to sound balance discussions.
Are you going to negate that most of the playerbase play mainly axis factions?
Automatch says otherwise. And it seems that it is constant in all ELO ranges, because everybody sees always around 70% axis players.
And a simple search in this forum shows that changes detrimental to axis factions generate much more outcry than changes detrimental to allies. Same applies to official and steam forums.
And about " immune to sound balance discussions", please don't make me remember when so many sacred cows from this very forum claimed that Tiger Ace was perfectly balanced.
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Seeing as everyone on this forum pretty much insists on bitching until every single useful American unit or commander is nerfed into the ground, I'm just going to suggest removing the commander and replacing him with something the German players that populate this forum wont constantly whine about.
Around 70%~80% of the community play Axis mainly.
What do you expect? They cry louder. |
How is that punishing? Firstly, if you're repositioning like you should, it won't really affect you that much.
And then again, even if you lack the perseverance to relocate, you're only losing the squad. Unless you've completely neglected to repair the support equipment -- which again is player error. This is all also on the assumption the squad is completely wiped, which, lets be honest, does not happen nearly as much as the katyusha's current iteration.
Stuka wipes squads very easily too.
Please, stop complaining about Katyusha. You OKW players didn't complain at all about your Stuka and now are crying because soviets have a similar unit that comes much later in the game.
If one of them should be nerfed, then both of them should. In my opinion both of them are OP as hell, but it angers me how biased people try to defend one unit while condemn the other. |
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