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Jump back to quoted post12 Aug 2021, 02:08 AMVermillion_Hawk

Sometimes the issue doesn't merit further discussion when it's in flagrant defiance of all the actual historical work that's been done on the subject in the past few decades. This forum (and, not coincidentally, forums of games like Steel Division or Hearts of Iron) is the only place where I see anyone peddling the "clean Wehrmacht" nonsense that no proper historian would touch.

Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2021, 16:32 PMTiger Baron

You are assuming I meant the latest games but I never said that, if I did I would have probably named them.

I meant the entire franchises which again, Battlefield was the only one with the Last Tiger campaign in BFV that actually showed WW2 from the German perspective, otherwise all others have always been from the Allied one.

Plus arguably and ironically the Last Tiger took BFV into the headlines so there is a market there for the other guy's perspective.

And I think your logic is flawed a little bit here, what do you mean by "real" history exactly?

As others have already mentioned here there are plenty of German campaigns already, and maybe a few here and there from the other Axis' perspectives but not much and none of them dwell into the war crimes.

If we're going to be honest here there's a lot to cover on the Allied side as well but people don't really want that depression in their games as you said.

2 specific examples I can give which again, were not covered and will never be covered in CoH or any other franchise are the rape of berlin:



Which could have been put at the end of the Soviet campaign in CoH2 but it wasn't for very obvious reasons that there would be an even bigger uproar from the Russians as they only want to be portrayed as heroes in media.

And then we have the Biscari massacre where US troopers murdered around 70 Italian POWs which again, can be covered in CoH3, but obviously won't be.



As Major-General Raymond Hufft is quoted saying - "If the Germans had won, I would have been on trial at Nuremberg instead of them."

One may judge the other harshly but he forgets that at times he is no better. That's not to say that America didn't rebuild the world after the war and became it's freedom fighter in my opinion, more or less, against an even bigger tyrannical dictatorship but still, nobody is perfect and it's important to remember that.

To end it, I'll just say that in war, there are no rules and you can ask any combat veteran about that.

All that matters is you and your buddy next to you, no politics and other such crap, all that bull goes out the window the moment bullets begin to fly and your survival instinct kicks in, as well as your wrath and anger after it's over.