I really think you missed the main arguments in this thread bro...
Also G43s aren't exactly effective counters to Shocks by any stretch of the imagination.
Also also a single Su-85 is more than enough to kill a Tiger Ace assuming you're competent enough to damage the engine, which is pretty easy to do. People grossly over exaggerate how difficult it is to kill a Tiger Ace.
This man talks sense listen to him ^^