Profile of Hawk

Do we really need another thread asking for more realism in the game? This isn't a simulation, it's a game. The unit stats are only loosely based on reality.

I think Relic has consistently proven that balance > realism so these asks are completely pointless.

I agree Soviets need some help in regards to armor late in the game, but basing your arguments on actual or perceived stats from the war is a great way to ensure your thoughts are ignored.

It still feels to me like Soviets live and die by their Commander choice while it's not nearly as important for Ost. You have to change your entire strat based on which Soviet commander you pick, but I can play an entire game as Ost and delay picking a commander until 8-9 CP (or at all) and feel like I have a reasonable counter to anything that comes out on the other side.

I guess that's just the design of the Soviets but it doesn't feel right.

What? Look the replay from OMGPOP and CieZ dude... 3 clown cars.. 3!!!!!!!!! ridiculous XD

I'm sorry, what was the point of mentioning that replay?

Yeah, he had 3 scout cars and only 1 had a sniper in it. Also, during the majority of the time the scouts were up his side was LOSING decisively. They won the game on an excellently executed tank rush/flank that had nothing to do with snipers or scout cars.

My difficulties against sov is:


Shocks > smoke VS Mg42
Normal inf > oura + molotov + ppsh VS grenadiers and MG42
Snipers... ( some games they are 6 snipers on the map ...)

They force me to use lot of MP trying to counter thoose units, so i let them a lot of time, areas, ressources to produce tanks...

Shocks have zero anti-vehicle ability. Flame HT destroys them and is great for forward re-enforcing and defense later in the game. Pgrens can also reasonably stand up to shocks, especially once they start to get vet. A sniper can cause a lot of MP drain killing shocks and their vet1 ability is murder on them. I've seen it kill up to 3 men out of a full health shock squad.

Molotovs are easily dodged by all infantry. The AI can be a bit stupid (jumping back into the flames) but looking out for grenade abilities is something players on both sides need to perfect.

PPSH conscripts have the constitution of a sick 6 year old girl. They die quickly to just about any unit that looks their way even at trip vet. They cost the same as grens, so if they're making a lot of cons you can fight them with grens and a couple upgraded grens (either G43 or LMG) will cause a ton of casualties to those cons as they try to rush you.

Don't overlook the mortar. The ost mortar can be a heat seeking missile. Sadly, it's one of the best sniper counters I've seen especially if there are multiple snipers in an area. Most of the time the snipers will get one to two shots off before the mortar hits close enough to outright kill them or cause enough damage to force them off.

If you're playing elite, don't completely skip vetting some units. Vet makes a huge difference and early vet can be a deciding factor. Also Vet 2 or 3 P4's are fantastic and can help delay the need for panthers depending on how the game is going. They also have decent anti-infantry ability.

Also don't be afraid to use MG bunkers. They can be a pain for soviets to deal with early if strategically placed. You can use them to deny a key point, or defensively to help protect an area and some of your set up units like the mortar. Guards in a scout car will make quick work of one if it's left alone, but most other early game units take a while to take one down.

I play 2v2 pretty much exclusively these days so that's where my experience is coming from. 1v1 is a bit different but it sounds like you're playing with a partner anyhow.

My partner and I find the Elite commander to be one of the toughest to deal with currently, especially if they go double elite. You really have to find a way to be super aggressive and keep their map control to a minimum. (Easier said than done...)

I usually go guard motor T1-T3 and get 2 snipers to guards and T34 as quick as possible. My partner mixes up his doc some, but he always tech's T2-T4 to compliment with Maxim's and SU-85's with cons for capping power and an early shield for my snipers.

2 well micro'd snipers can easily fend off 2 vet LMG gren squads. G43's are a different story... It gets harder with 3+ squads coming at you or if they choose to vet a mortar which is essentially a homing missile at vet 3.

Guards are a great counter for the scout car or flame HT so you can delay the Zis a bit longer. I still find the 120mm mortar better than the 82mm even with the recent nerf. It still has a great chance to wipe a squad which is even more key against Elite since they're most likely purchasing vet.

To Neph's point you really have to harass their map control, specifically the fuel. The longer you let the Elite commander stay in the game the harder it's going to get if they're keeping units alive. I don't even worry about the Ace anymore, I worry about seeing multiple vet 2 or 3 P4's backed by all that vet infantry...