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Thread: Addition of T34 to the Soviet HQ to resolve tech problems30 Sep 2014, 18:55 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2014, 18:47 PMsoylientgreen Making the T34-85 a T3 immediately would basically rule the T34-76 at HQ useless, it would turn into another t70. There has to be some sort of fuel cost to gain access to the 85. Part of the suggestion also included making the T34/76 more of an AI unit rather. That would give it more distinction from the T34/85. The T70 would be lighter and come out earlier than the T34/76 and the T34/85 would come out a little later and be AT. Making the 85 an upgraded 76 from T3 means that T4 has no access to it and just makes T3 better. T4 currently is a lot less appealing unless it is supplemented by doctrine choice. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Addition of T34 to the Soviet HQ to resolve tech problems30 Sep 2014, 18:43 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2014, 18:30 PMsoylientgreen Why not instead making it an upgrade? keep the T34-76 in the T3 building, to gain access to the T34-85 you have to "research" it for like 100-150 fuel. Once research you can then choose to build T34-85s from the T3 building or the T34. The point is not to add a T34/85 to T3 as it is to add a T34/76 to the HQ to provide more variety and adaptability to the Soviet meta. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Addition of T34 to the Soviet HQ to resolve tech problems30 Sep 2014, 18:04 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2014, 16:58 PMLokust22 So when I was suggesting this to the people I play with, their worry was that no one would go T3. They thought that the superior AT ability of the SU85, combined with the T34/76 for AI and the Katyusha for arty would just be too tempting to ignore. I personally think that both T3 and T4 will be viable as a stand alone, self sufficient option. Even if one is slightly better than the other, the important thing is it will be possible to go the other one, and when that situation arises where you think you will need a katyusha (or whichever), you won't be hamstringing yourself in the process. I agree; I think both T3/4 would be equally viable and up to the style of the player and situation. I currently play with T34/85s a lot atm; but if the T34/76 were in the HQ then I think I may favour T4. The point is, is that putting the T34/76 in the HQ provides equally valid arguments for going T3 or T4... That is exactly what you want. I do think that changing the T34/76 to more of an AI role would also be needed to give further distinction from the T34/85s in T3 and not have, to some extent, "the best of both worlds" if you go T4. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Addition of T34 to the Soviet HQ to resolve tech problems30 Sep 2014, 12:07 PM The cost of any unit and its position within the army should not be the ONLY justification for its its ability/strength. Consider an index which takes the ability of the unit and divides it by the cost of that unit. 'Ability' would be a measure of the units stats, eg armour, penetration, damage etc. Lets say that the index of a fair unit is always 1. By this argument we can always keep units balanced as if they have better stats (ability/strength) then they should cost more so as to maintain the index at 1. By this notion we could take the two units being discussed; the T34/85 and the King Tiger and say that both have an index of 1; ie they are fair. A problem arises, however, when you keep improving a units stats (ability). While the units ability may be improving and the associated resource cost with it (to maintain an index of 1) there comes a point where the unit is unkillable. If the unit does too much damage such that no other unit can even approach it and/or it has too much armour such that no shot can damage it then the index becomes irrelevant. No amount of resources can justify the power of the unit. As such a unit like the King Tiger may be very close to the above unkillable category. Very few units have the fire power to penetrate its armour. It also has great fire power. Its approaching that point where the fact that it costs 340 fuel is less relevant. And while King Tigers are not so obtainable in 1v1 it is a serious option in 2v2 3v3 4v4. Come to think of it, while writing this; the relation between ability and cost (the index) should not be a direct linear relationship. In: COH2 Balance