Profile of rumartinez89

Wanted to try and fit halftrack into my commissar build for heavy infantry pressure but alas it was not to be.

I started with T1 and sent engi to cap right side and get Gas. My first penal was sent to opposite side to cap and started building clown car to harrass. He caught me off guard with his Sturm and I was forced to retreat, came right back with clown car and forced his sturm and VG back. Noticed on Radio intercept that he made PF so I'm guessing he will go BattleGrouppe. I continue to bully his infantry and force some retreats while I decap.

Mechanized appears on radio intercept so in the back of my mind I know I need PTRS so I try to keep my car alive to get some antics going. His Luchs appears and he starts to force the fight his way. He bleeds me, but I keep pushing to try and get map back along with calling in a T70, I really wanted halftrack but I needed a spark. I catch his Luchs out of position but unable to get the kill. I start to push him a bit and Luchs shows up again. WTF is going on!

He forces me back and thats when I notice he has 2. I have PTRS but I am losing map control bad. I send my Vet2 clown car to recap gas but lose it. Shit is looking bleak and now he has a Puma. I am thinking about throwing in the towel until I get a inf wipe, he cant keep up with all his units. I make another clown car and hunt down a solo Luch, that catches his attention so I throw a satchel on another inf squad and get another wipe.

The game is going his way but I have given my self an opening. I start making a 2nd PTRS squad and he rushes my clown car to kill it with his PUMA which ends in my favor with PTRS popping up at the right time and getting me the kill. He makes another Luchs so I have more work ahead.

I end up catching another Luch riding solo so I get the kill but he kills the squad on retreat while I kill another Inf with T70. He makes one last Puma and after some back and forth he chases my T70 to base and kills my clown car. He backs off but I had a PTRS squad hiding and waiting for my chance and get off my AT satchel and get the kill. He gives up GG

Thoughts:
Despite feeling like I had no chance, it was extremely fun to play against. Getting the W made it even better.
The new portraits look pretty cool.
T70 had a lot of down time to only having 1 engineer but I was proud of using it as bait and actually getting wipes with it.
Thanks for reading, give it a watch if you have time it was pretty crazy game never dealt with that many LV in a game before.

The issue isn't the ability itself, it's the synergy with allied units that makes it absurdly strong. When used behind enemy tanks (especially during a dive), it instantly creates what is in effect a 'wall' which retreating vehicles can't cross. This amount of map control on a single ability is just far too much, especially when the 'activation' period is so short (i.e. the time between clicking and the first shell dropping).

Consider that during an allied charge, Axis tanks will usually need to reverse in order to maintain their armor advantage, since long-range pen isn't great on allied mediums, or because they're being zoned out by 60-range TDs. Reversing, however, places them inside the AT Overwatch, which will result in massive amounts of damage taken. Going forward also isn't an option, as it means being surrounded by allied tanks, usually giving flanking advantages - and standing still isn't much better. Even worse, slower axis tanks can effectively be 'deleted' by this ability, with no opportunity for counter play, or even a reaction because of this 'instant wall' effect.

My suggestion would be to keep the stats the same, but increase the delay before the first shell drops by a significant margine. As a result, it keeps its power about the same, and still works well as a defensive ability, but it could no longer create impassable zones instantly during diving attacks.

I am confused by your statement, are you saying an allied charge when they caught you out of position or they charged your main army. If you are caught out of position you deserve to lose the tanks, its 200 muni plus whatever they threw at you on top of flanking you. If you are talking about your main army you should have snares, mines, shreks, at guns to slow them down. The ability needs sight so even if they call it in behind you it needs sight.

Now in 3v3 or 4v4 where one of them might have recon/flares then there aint much you can do but that is the nature of bigger game modes. If you increase the initial delay you would need to significantly ramp up subsequent drops so DPS stays the same. That would be even worse for a single snared tank or a well timed ram due to the drops focusing on one tank instead of spreading out to all in the circle.

Ah yes once more you do not have any arguments and thus attack the person instead of the point.



From the same patch notes:

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Now unless you want to argue that Ostheer did not receive major buffs because they could not cope with USF what you have post does not contradict what I posted.

USF owned Ostheer on release badly the same way OKW owned Soviet on release (only soviet come up with maxim spam to cope).




I want even bother responding to rest of toxic comment and I will simply say that you theory the USF where bad from release and only become worse with every patch is simply silly.

Here some stat proving you wrong:
https://www.coh2.org/news/102660/world-championship-match-stats#sov_meta

Highest win ration faction USF with 59%


https://www.coh2.org/news/92866/automatch-stats-factions-teams-and-maps#stat1v1
"In this article I will examine map and factions stats taken from automatch games that I retrieved from the 15th of December 2018 to the 19th March 2019."

"Overall, win percentages for all factions (see above) are pretty close to 50%. USF is most successful with an overall win percentage of about 52%, whereas OH seems to get the short end of the stick. On the allied side, the Soviets wins least. "

Just going off memory OKW and USF were OP when originally released. USF had weak tanks but AT Loiter and Rifle company made up for that.

I loved OKW when it first came out, their tech structure allowed a JP4 early as hell. I would just make medic and mechanized rush out JP4 along with Falls doctrine. All bases cover and with good play you had TD out before your opponent got tanks.

Forget about G43 for a second. PFs are 270MP 0CP unit, from the get go they are weaker then volks at all ranges and have slightly better DPS at longer ranges, dont have access to sandbags. Lack of mid\close range DPS (which is not exeptional on volks aswell) means that your best bet with PFs is to camp in cover without moving much and hope that if enemy will somehow charge you, you will be able to hold your ground.
Volks on the other hand while not having super close\mid range DPS, they can still deliver a punch if charged badly, they can construct green cover and they can force enemy out of cover. In other words, in situations where volks have problems PFs have x2 problems + their own problems.

This is all about early. PFs arent underpowered\bad unit, but in early game they are intentionally handycapped because they will get G43s and G43 is so powerfull because they are rather weak early for the price. See the idea behind their balance?

In 1v1 and somewhat in 2v2 its a significant disadvantages, in 3v3 and 4v4 its not. And thats the reason why they are problem in big teamgames and lesser problem in smaller games. Because the core idea behind them is not working for every gamemode.

Seriously, stop exaggerating how weak they are to start the game. I understand you said that ELITE players can overcome PF weak opening yet you also said no one would ever go PF only. Zaney just posted a match between Isuldur and IncaUna and went full PF build which traded well EARLY with Rifles. Despite the fact that they cant build cover, have worse DPS and cost more he held similar map which he then used to leverage a Flaktrak so he could cover and start to upgrade his units.

We are in agreement that the unit composition in regards to DPS is the issue(G43 models) but the argument that they start weak so they need to be strong later makes no sense. How long are they "weak" is it until they get the G43 upgrades? Is it when they get Vet? The unit can usually start upgrading at 5-6 mins from start of game. Even games can go from 20-60 mins so it spends a fraction of its time being weak and most of the time overperforming. If it is with Vet, all they have to do is join the horde and earn some easy Vet.

By the way the game is a fairly good watch up until MID/Late game. I think it shows how bad Rifle company scales along with the Stuart which I think has to do with lack of decent indirect.

Well you should check 1v1 yellow cover to yellow cover PF vs any other mainline mid range and long range. And also take into account the starting unit for OKW which is Sturmpio which annihilates every other mainline unit close to medium range.
And also check https://coh2.serealia.ca/# the stats of vet0 PF and compare them to other mainlines before saying that PFs are utter garbage. Utter garbage for garbage player definitely.

I just want to point out that the website hasn't been updated for any of the 2021 patches. I don't believe it changes OKW and OST too much but Allied infantry has changed.