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Thread: Gebirgsjäger [Suggestion]15 Oct 2013, 11:36 AM Assualt Grenedier perhaps will suit your appetite In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: T34/8515 Oct 2013, 10:57 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2013, 09:43 AMlink0 This is the problem with people that only play one faction. It's really impossible not to be biased. It's human nature to think we are great players and we only lose because our own faction is weaker. Not until the game is okey balanced(revised 5 days ago) Top 25 1v1 German WR 80.568% (81.03% today) Soviet WR 76.5% (76.5% today) Top 25 2v2 German WR 81.992% Soviet WR 74.98% Top 25 3v3 German WR 82.116% Soviet WR 75.356% In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: T34/8515 Oct 2013, 10:54 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2013, 09:58 AMSouthers just make it a global upgrade and the call in of 2 slightly cheaper than manufacturing + you don't need to upgrade and even get the building. increase the penetration slightly and everyones happy. The 8.575 Rof make it on par with a elephant and a JS-2, slightly increase penetration and ROF PZIV(320MP/115FU), T34/76(280MP/85FU), T-34/85(720MP/260FU,4CP for pack of 2) PZIV finishing off a T-34/85: (800/160)5.825/(88.7097%)=32.8318sec PZIV finishing off a T-34/76: (640/160)5.825/(95.6522%)=24.3591sec T-34/85 finishing off a PZIV: (640/160)8.575/(68.75%)=49.8909sec T-34/76 finishing off a PZIV: (640/120)4.875/(50%)=52sec Panther finishing off a T-34/85: (800/160)6.575/(100%)=32.875sec T-34/85 finishing off a Panther: (960/160)8.575/(40.7407)=126.286sec as I've stated over and over again, the T-34/85 means you pay the price tag of 760/260FU at the late game to buy something than can do no better than a price tag of 280/85FU AKA T-34/76, or something vastly inferior to a 320MP/115FU one AKA PZIV. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: T34/8515 Oct 2013, 08:23 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2013, 07:58 AMRubbers lmao this is sooo fucking true. State of the game right now is this. Dude you should make this a new thread with just this post. Classic. I Agree with Abdul they t34/85 badly needs more penetration for a high fuel late game call in tank. A lot of times it cant even penetrate a p4 and it just seems like a marginally better t34 to me, (and I don't like t34s very much because its outclassed so much by p4) BTW Immortal, have YOU tried playing SOVIET lately? nope, Immortal can't even recall a cost of a T-34/76 last time I saw him In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: T34/8511 Oct 2013, 22:40 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Oct 2013, 19:30 PMwooof its only the "most expensive investment" because you get 2 tanks at once. so again, not a fair comparison. i already read your numbers multiples times in this thread. posting them again isnt going to change my mind. not sure why youre freaking out and trying to make things personal. your argument is weak and your numbers arent evidence of anything. apparently disagreeing with you means im brainless. here, to prove my point, ill even make the su85 brummbar comparison for you: su85 finishing off a brummbar: (960/160)4.25/(85%)=30sec brummbar finishing off a su85: (640/160)8.5/(44.12%)=77.06sec (WTF?) Troll fail.. Did I even compare the dedicated AI unit such like OstWind and KV-8 Vs. Tanks? If you are trying to convince everyone that the up-guned T-34/85 which comes with a payment of 720MP/260fuel of 2, should be considered as a dedicated AI unit like Brumbar or KV-8 Please, STOP TROLLING....you are already senseless. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: T34/8511 Oct 2013, 22:33 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Oct 2013, 20:07 PMCPU - Easy The increased damage and penetration of its main gun (and actual history) indicate the T34-85 is intended to serve as an improved anti-tank vehicle. I don't think anyone would be buying a pair of T34-85's for anti-infantry, when the T34-76 already has that role covered. Heck, nerf its scatter range to weaken its anti-infantry capability if that will allow its anti-tank capability to be improved. Yes, I've edited in my original proposal, to make scatter to 9.5 same as PZIV, thus reduce its AI capabilities in favor of the long lacked AT In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: T34/8511 Oct 2013, 18:40 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Oct 2013, 17:00 PMwooof im not saying the t34/85 doesnt need a change, but spamming this math all over this thread isnt really "evidence" of anything. you tried doing the same thing when comparing the is2 and tiger. youre still using the logic "the soviet tank is more expensive, it should win" which is a flawed argument. youre completely ignoring the role of the soviet tanks. just like the is2, the t34/85 has very low scatter. it also has good AOE. combine that with with only 110 pen and its pretty clear this is another AI focused tank. now before you get all mad, im not saying this is right or that i agree with it, im just analyzing the numbers. i actually agree with most of you when you say the soviets should have another tank for AT besides su85. my point is, comparing tanks based on cost and ignoring roles doesnt make for a strong argument. try running your same numbers for su85 vs brummbar or t34 vs ostwind. both of these will result in the cheaper tank winning and isnt evidence of any kind of imbalance. I forget about the ROLE OF T-34/85?For it's being the most expensive investment than any other German heavy tank? T-34/85 finishing off a PZIV: (640/160)8.575/(68.75%)=49.8909sec(WTF?) T-34/76 finishing off a PZIV: (640/120)4.875/(50%)=52sec It's performance is no better than a T-34/76 but ridiculously 720MP/260FU to buy 2 of them, and it's doctrinal 4CP, even a people with a brain can tell this is FULL-RETARDED. You are telling me the T-34/85 AI is better than the T-34/76 for it's firing 56.85% slower than the T-34/76 with same AOE radius but 3m better scatter? A most expensive end-game tank investment loss to everything German can build is called "The role" As for SU-85, have you ever use the SU-85 after the patch? Seriously, you haven't at all. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: T34/8511 Oct 2013, 15:44 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Oct 2013, 12:30 PMBabaRoga Well T33/85 are hugely costly, and yes they are inferior to t34/76 when you look at the cost of 1 t34/76 and compare it to how much one T34/86 ends up costing. But a lot of people here forget that you don't actually need to tech up and go through tier buildings. You have everything you need to win, with this commander, from HQ and CP units alone!!! As you say Cardboard Tank, If T34/85 is any better when hitting field in 1v1 (assuming someone uses no teching up tactic) this commander would be just about invincible. Once again, if you are teching up through tiers, yes T34/85 is inferior tank. But please guys, try to look at the commander. Its clearly made for that purpose, cons > guards > T34/85. It works quite well, and obviously t34/85 hits the field roughly when Piv does too. I doubt thats by accident... For "you don't need to tech up" you don't need to tech up on tiger and elephant as well. It's really biased for exaggerating the "No tech up" to an specific unit which is more or equally same price as German end-game heavys but only 1CP earlier. OR Make it 5 CP but receive a huge buff to a normal standard and single call-in. That's why for 1v1 purpose make it only available when you build either T3 or T4.As German you need to reach battle phase T4 or build T3 factories. I don't think there exists a common sense that you pay the 720/260 fuel at 4CP to buy two individually inferior and more costly tank than the other side is called balance.and you can see the T-34/76 can do equally the SAME amount of damage to the PZIV compare the to the T-34/85. either remove the T-34/85 from the game for the sake of the 10 month suffering from this POS and make the T-34/76 double call-in.I'll have to bring this up to show how retarded the vehicle balance is: PZIV(320MP/115FU), T34/76(280MP/85FU), T-34/85(720MP/260FU,4CP for pack of 2) PZIV finishing off a T-34/85: (800/160)5.825/(88.7097%)=32.8318sec PZIV finishing off a T-34/76: (640/160)5.825/(95.6522%)=24.3591sec T-34/85 finishing off a PZIV: (640/160)8.575/(68.75%)=49.8909sec(WTF?) T-34/76 finishing off a PZIV: (640/120)4.875/(50%)=52sec In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: T34/8511 Oct 2013, 01:14 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Oct 2013, 00:42 AMlink0 Wow, talk about some ridiculously over the top buffs. Something that has the same cost as a P4, but more hp, more armor, better accuracy (far lower scatter), better AI (see scatter), higher penetration, and zero build time? Seriously? Who would even consider building a normal T34-76 after that. Although not quite there yet, you are risking becoming a Soviet Nullist. BTW, your calculations left out accuracy and scatter. The T34-85 has a tiny scatter so almost never misses tanks. It also makes it far more accurate vs infantry. The T34-85 needs only a small buff to EITHER rate of fire or penetration to be fair for its price. Allowing it to be called in one at a time would also be a nice buff. LOL, over buff? Perhaps you don't know that what PZIV got buffed - Price from 480mp/120 fuel to 320mp/115 fuel - Reload time from 4.75s to 5.75s - Damage from 80 to 160 - Acceleration from 2.8 to 2.4 - Max speed from 5.3 to 5.2 doubled damage......and reduction in price. The 130 fuel of Panther may already put an answer to your assumption.I'm mainly 2v2 player and play as wehr in vCOH COHOL and COH2, And I think I should increase the scatter let T-34/85 focus on AT you remind me. May be changed to 480MP/125FUEL, Fuel greater than a Panther is ridicules, Or 480MP/130Fuel and Make Panther to 580MP/140Fuel, The fuel cost of Panther is kinda low, so I can't make a T-34/85 fuel cost higher than a Panther(which takes 70.875sec to destroy a Panther meanwhile Panther only needs 32.875 sec) And do soviet have better tanks other than T-34/85? T-34/85 should be intermediate between the PZIV and Panther Edited: I've added the scatter 2.6 to 9.5(same as PZIV) to make it more AT like. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: T34/8510 Oct 2013, 23:15 PM I have calculated my proposal: New reload 6 sec, Reload+Aim=6+0.125=6.125sec Armor 170 Penetration Rise from 110 to 140 Cost 400MP/125Fuel Scatter increase from 2.6 to 9.5 (Make them more a AT which soviet more desperately needed but not AI) For 1v1 balancing purpose, T-34/85 can only be call-in when soviet build either T3 or T4 factories.(same should go for other heavy tanks in game, for ostheer should either build a T3 or reach the battle phase T4) Panther vs T-34/85 (600MP/130FU vs 400MP/125fuel) Panther finishing off a T-34/85: (800/160)6.575/(100%)=32.875sec newT-34/85 finishing off a Panther: (960/160)6.125/(140/270)=70.875sec* currentT-34/85 finishing off a Panther: (960/160)8.575/(40.7407)=126.286sec(LOL) PZIV vs T-34/85 (320MP/115fuel vs 400MP/125fuel) PZIV finishing off a newT-34/85: (800/160)5.825/(110/170)=45.0114sec *newT-34/85 finishing off a PZIV: (640/160)6.125(100%)=24.5sec** currentT-34/85 finishing off a PZIV: (640/160)8.575/(68.75%)=49.8909sec(WTF?) T-34/76 vs PZIV (280MP/85fuel vs. 320/115fuel) PZIV finishing off a T-34/76: (640/160)5.825/(95.6522%)=24.3591sec T-34/76 finishing off a PZIV: (640/120)4.875/(50%)=52sec As you can see, the cost-effecitveness increase merely linearly For PZIV vs newT-34/85 isn't as desperately as the situation when T-34/76 vs PZIV. For Panther vs newT-34/85 Panther only needs 32.875sec to smash the T-34/85, meanwhile T-34/85 needs 70.875 sec to finish off a Panther at the cost 600MP/130FU vs 400MP/125FU. And even 2 T-34/85 work together takes 70.875/2=35.4375sec to get the job done(which you'll ended up losing one tank) Yes, in tank battle, Panther still dominates. And please always keep in mind that my proposal leds the T-34/85 can only be call-in when you have T3 or T4 building, and Panther has 50m main gun range vs 40m(T-34/85) max speed of 5.5(panther) vs 5.3(T-34/85). I'd say this is so much a improve ment to current retarded vehicle balance In: COH2 Gameplay