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Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2014, 14:49 PMThe_Courier

Thing is, OKW don't lack for anti-infantry even without Obers.

Sturmpios are still powerful. They still get a mobile suppression platform. Volks are still very tough with a free grenade. 3 doctrines have powerful elite infantry, and a fourth a cheap MG. The Flak HT is a terror now. They can also easily lock down a sector against infantry with the T4 building. Luchs, when well microed, is really good too. And it's not like these two vehicles are incredibly expensive, a Flacktrack + Puma combo beats anything until the doctrinal mediums/heavies roll out.

When I play OKW, I very rarely get Obers, because I don't need them. Your other core units can very well beat allied infantry; Obers are just the overkill that allows you to effortlessly pound them into dust and force the allied player(s) to get AI vehicles just to counter your 400mp no muni no fuel supersoldiers. That's just stupid design, sorry. At the very least, Obers should need to invest munitions to get their all-powerful MG34, and IMO their LMG should be nerfed at long range along with every other LMG in the game.

And dammit, the lack of medium tanks is no excuse for OKW having superunits. They got the Puma, which any other faction would kill to have. They got shrecks on basic infantry. They got the best turretless TD in the game. They access a Panther far earlier than Ostheer. The faction is designed to work around that weakness; it doesn't need to also have nigh-invincible supersoldiers on top of that. Especially since Obers are not affected by the ressource penalty in any way.

Jump back to quoted post7 Oct 2014, 22:58 PMThe_Courier

Yeah, Soviets can counter it but it's not like it's a significant investment for OKW. The thing costs no fuel at all, if you get any economical advantage out of it it hs already paid for itself.

Against US, it's just ridiculous. Unless the OKW player derps massively and lets you flank, you literally cannot do anything but sit in green cover/garrison until the M20 arrives. For a 240 MP investment, it's absurdly effective. And which faction happens to have the best garrison-clearing early game unit again? Yep...