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Why this game are soo arcade and with no realism?

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1 Aug 2017, 14:38 PM
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avatar of Jan Ziska

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1 Aug 2017, 15:54 PM
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avatar of Tiger Baron

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If you want realism go play the Europe at War mod for Company of Heroes.

I even recently had people complain that the entire dev team are German biased on the forums.

And just to clarify, I'm only a moderator there, not a dev.
2 Aug 2017, 20:52 PM
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But this game are classic RTS?

I hate games that take too long times, a want a pure rts.
2 Aug 2017, 22:12 PM
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you're better off by quitting the game and punching the wall instead of posting this emotional nonsense
2 Aug 2017, 23:56 PM
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avatar of Luciano

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You dont have to play it if you dont like it, you can play other games :)
3 Aug 2017, 00:05 AM
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avatar of Storm Elite

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you're better off by quitting the game and punching the wall instead of posting this emotional nonsense


So you're discounting the points he made by claiming they were "emotional"...?

It really is absolutely absurd that Allied units don't need cover, ever.

USF troops run directly into enemy fire through open fields and take no damage whatsoever, then retreat with 1-2 models and never get wiped by anything the Axis factions have.

Same with most other Allied infantry.

It should NEVER be possible to simply move ANY faction's infantry through open ground under enemy fire safely, yet that's exactly how the USF, UKF, and to a much lesser degree Soviets work.

Try that with Axis units, and they die off HALF way to the enemy in green cover.
Reverse the tables, and the Allied infantry runs directly into enemy fire, gets into the SAME cover as Axis infantry has been sitting in all that time, and wins the engagement.

It's ABSURD, and it has absolutely nothing to do with emotions, wins/losses, or anything else.

It's an objective fact. You can lab it easily if you're somehow so inexperienced with the game that you've never seen this happen.
3 Aug 2017, 00:28 AM
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So you're discounting the points he made by claiming they were "emotional"...?

It really is absolutely absurd that Allied units don't need cover, ever.

USF troops run directly into enemy fire through open fields and take no damage whatsoever, then retreat with 1-2 models and never get wiped by anything the Axis factions have.

Same with most other Allied infantry.

It should NEVER be possible to simply move ANY faction's infantry through open ground under enemy fire safely, yet that's exactly how the USF, UKF, and to a much lesser degree Soviets work.

Try that with Axis units, and they die off HALF way to the enemy in green cover.
Reverse the tables, and the Allied infantry runs directly into enemy fire, gets into the SAME cover as Axis infantry has been sitting in all that time, and wins the engagement.

It's ABSURD, and it has absolutely nothing to do with emotions, wins/losses, or anything else.

It's an objective fact. You can lab it easily if you're somehow so inexperienced with the game that you've never seen this happen.


Same aply for the sturmpioneers, you can literally stay into green cover and see them running to you without droping a model :). And obersoldaten of course that run into the front of a mg and they kill the mg before getting supressed :). That also applies to vet gren lmg blobs and vet 5 volks :)
3 Aug 2017, 00:44 AM
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Same aply for the sturmpioneers, you can literally stay into green cover and see them running to you without droping a model :). And obersoldaten of course that run into the front of a mg and they kill the mg before getting supressed :). That also applies to vet gren lmg blobs and vet 5 volks :)


Well, that's partially because Western Front factions are literally from another game.

Eastern Front factions can't compete with Western Front factions. They don't belong in the same game.

However, veterancy isn't an argument. Volksgrenadiers can't do anything at low veterancy at all against anyone who is aggressively pushing. They deal no damage.

Meanwhile, EVERY USF unit runs into enemy fire without taking damage, gets into the same cover as the enemy, and wins the engagement. Every single one.

Regardless, the point is that it should never be possible, for any units, of any faction.

Of course, Relic couldn't care less. They're of the opinion that their game is a golden egg, flawless and precious in every way.
3 Aug 2017, 00:48 AM
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Well, that's partially because Western Front factions are literally from another game.

Eastern Front factions can't compete with Western Front factions. They don't belong in the same game.

However, veterancy isn't an argument. Volksgrenadiers can't do anything at low veterancy at all against anyone who is aggressively pushing. They deal no damage.

Meanwhile, EVERY USF unit runs into enemy fire without taking damage, gets into the same cover as the enemy, and wins the engagement. Every single one.

Regardless, the point is that it should never be possible, for any units, of any faction.

Of course, Relic couldn't care less. They're of the opinion that their game is a golden egg, flawless and precious in every way.


Oh, you dont need volks to beat usf, you can use the bullet proof double kubel strat and the godpioneers until you get enough fuel to get the luchs and rape everything :)

But yeah, balance in this game is shit and relic gives a shit so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
3 Aug 2017, 01:14 AM
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Oh, you dont need volks to beat usf, you can use the bullet proof double kubel strat and the godpioneers until you get enough fuel to get the luchs and rape everything :)

But yeah, balance in this game is shit and relic gives a shit so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Regardless of balance, do you actually believe / agree with what he is saying?

Reading his post seems like a grass is greener situation.
3 Aug 2017, 02:23 AM
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Regardless of balance, do you actually believe / agree with what he is saying?

Reading his post seems like a grass is greener situation.


No, this is a game, i want to have fun, go watch a documentary if you want realism
3 Aug 2017, 02:30 AM
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If you want realism/simulator:

-Download mods
-Play other games cause this is not a realistic game.

In the future i'll suggest using the SB for this kind of momentaneous rants.

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