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12 Apr 2017, 12:57 PM
#1
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Their base accuracy/damage value is still a bit high for a T1 unit. 222/Luchs/AAHT? Well there is their AT super nade. They beat upgraded grens (60Munis/240MP/30MP Reinforce cost)and panzergrenadiers. And OKW is doomed against th SOVS anyway.


Their nade should be unlocked once they upgrade to PTRS. Also their accuracy/damage or ROF should be reduced.
12 Apr 2017, 13:04 PM
#2
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i ask myself everyday why in the hell are penals (strafnikis) and unexpierenced USF trainees better than german troops which fought since years on all fronts...

the german soldier was a well trained and experienced soldier.

sovjets didnt trained their soldiers in most cases...they get a hat, jacket, shoes and maybe a weapon

nee
12 Apr 2017, 13:17 PM
#4
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yeah they won WW2 with droves of unarmed farmers
12 Apr 2017, 13:57 PM
#6
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I doubt they have furniture of any kind, seeing as they're prisoners.
12 Apr 2017, 14:20 PM
#8
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Apr 2017, 13:17 PMnee
yeah they won WW2 with droves of unarmed farmers


nope...they won cause germany fought against the half world....on 3-4 fronts....over whole europe....against 1:10 tanks and infantery relation.

look how much t34 (around 80.000) where build...and shermans (around 40.000)....planes...artillery..

germany was every night under attack from bomber planes


and the half world need 3 years...while france was beaten in 8 weeks. poland (2. hugest army) in 4 weeks.

sovjets lost 3millions solders in the first monts...


yeah....now u.
12 Apr 2017, 14:26 PM
#9
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there is another thread for how Hitler lost WW2, Here:
https://www.coh2.org/topic/56497/adolf-hitler-mistakes I suggest here is the better play for discussion on historical events in WW2


Otherwise i suggest the OP sends in a replay here:
https://www.coh2.org/forum/109/replay-reviews

so myself or one of the other strategist can help!
12 Apr 2017, 14:33 PM
#10
avatar of Sommergewitter

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i ask myself everyday why in the hell are penals (strafnikis) and unexpierenced USF trainees better than german troops which fought since years on all fronts...

the german soldier was a well trained and experienced soldier.

sovjets didnt trained their soldiers in most cases...they get a hat, jacket, shoes and maybe a weapon



This game is not and will never be about historical accuracy, go watch documentaries and read wikipedia if that is all you want.
12 Apr 2017, 14:37 PM
#11
avatar of some one

Posts: 935

I have no problem dealing with Penals as OKW
Same I saw yesterday in DevM stream His grens with LMGs are ok vs Penals
12 Apr 2017, 14:55 PM
#14
avatar of Jubey

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Good luck to successfully connect a satchel on a P2
And if you upgrade them with PTRS they become useless versus infantry, and even with the PTRS they still die like flies versus a P2
12 Apr 2017, 15:32 PM
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Several off topic comments were cleaned up. Please do try to stay on topic.
12 Apr 2017, 16:03 PM
#16
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They are only really useful as late game vet 3 units with a too powerful snare. Just keep one of them next to your tanks and nothing can come close to it. I have snared some Panthers that dared to flank this way.
12 Apr 2017, 16:22 PM
#17
avatar of BIH_kirov_QC

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They are only really useful as late game vet 3 units with a too powerful snare. Just keep one of them next to your tanks and nothing can come close to it. I have snared some Panthers that dared to flank this way.


it not like u need to come near any soviets tanks
12 Apr 2017, 16:22 PM
#18
avatar of DanielD

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I saw everyone talking about the amazing AT nade on penals and was surprised when they only had a satchel. Against competent players I really wouldn't count that as an AT grenade. Unless I missed a button?
12 Apr 2017, 16:25 PM
#19
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Apr 2017, 16:22 PMDanielD
I saw everyone talking about the amazing AT nade on penals and was surprised when they only had a satchel. Against competent players I really wouldn't count that as an AT grenade. Unless I missed a button?


they can stick to vehicule now
12 Apr 2017, 16:29 PM
#20
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Apr 2017, 16:25 PMBlalord


they can stick to vehicule now


Ah, thanks. Do you have to aim it, or does it auto-lock like the cons at-nade?
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