Rifle Company Fire Up
9 Jan 2016, 22:04 PM
#1
Posts: 30
1 thing occured to me that when cons and ass grens use sprint they don't get exhausted but for some reason riflemen do get this ability with a doctrine and they get exhausted for sprinting the same amount of time as cons.Now you maybe saying "Conscripts suck donkey shit and can't buy weapons from the racks" if that's your excuse than i agree but ass grens is pretty good close range when i played a 1v1 with ass grens.Now the question is should fire up work like ooorah or is it balanced the way it is?
9 Jan 2016, 22:08 PM
#2
Posts: 935
It is way to useful ability to use it.
9 Jan 2016, 22:51 PM
#3
Posts: 1144 | Subs: 7
fat americans get winded after running after a little bit elejiggle
9 Jan 2016, 23:48 PM
#4
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Relic thought it will be awesome idea to transfer ability from coh1 together with its disadvantages, but somehow forgot about why it had them in the first place.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
9 Jan 2016, 23:58 PM
#5
Posts: 3103 | Subs: 1
Relic thought it will be awesome idea to transfer ability from coh1 together with its disadvantages, but somehow forgot about why it had them in the first place.
For the love of Quinn though, DO NOT BRING BACK THE SUPPRESSION REMOVAL!
10 Jan 2016, 02:23 AM
#6
Posts: 196
I think every infantry unit (apart from the conscripts) shouldn't have any type of buff that increases their speed.
If player wants to increase the speed, mount a vehicle you silly goose
Agreed.
If player wants to increase the speed, mount a vehicle you silly goose
For the love of Quinn though, DO NOT BRING BACK THE SUPPRESSION REMOVAL!
Agreed.
10 Jan 2016, 02:29 AM
#7
8 Posts: 2470
I think every infantry unit (apart from the conscripts) shouldn't have any type of buff that increases their speed.
If player wants to increase the speed, mount a vehicle you silly goose
if transports were more common (and had better utility) i would agree. instead we have no transport for OKW, a doctrinal one for USF, and brits can only move one squad; transports are not an important part of this game, which is unfortunate.
10 Jan 2016, 02:34 AM
#8
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if transports were more common (and had better utility) i would agree. instead we have no transport for OKW, a doctrinal one for USF, and brits can only move one squad; transports are not an important part of this game, which is unfortunate.
Transports are really just used to drive-by or reinforce when they are available anyway.
10 Jan 2016, 02:38 AM
#9
Posts: 196
if transports were more common (and had better utility) i would agree. instead we have no transport for OKW, a doctrinal one for USF, and brits can only move one squad; transports are not an important part of this game, which is unfortunate.
True, they are literally the means to get something else, which misses the point of them completely.
The difference of pace in between infantry and vehicles is not that big, which is why things like vehicles seem redundant. To me one the biggest design problems with COH and DOW is the insane speed that infantry moves at, which makes suicide frontal attacks so viable when they they shouldn't which in turn rewards close quarters infantry aggression and puts the onus on the longer ranged units to keep them at a distance. Which is absolutely counter-intuitive.
10 Jan 2016, 03:31 AM
#10
8 Posts: 2470
True, they are literally the means to get something else, which misses the point of them completely.
The difference of pace in between infantry and vehicles is not that big, which is why things like vehicles seem redundant. To me one the biggest design problems with COH and DOW is the insane speed that infantry moves at, which makes suicide frontal attacks so viable when they they shouldn't which in turn rewards close quarters infantry aggression and puts the onus on the longer ranged units to keep them at a distance. Which is absolutely counter-intuitive.
transports in dow2 were very useful though. they primarily served two purposes: speed (they were a bit faster than infantry, even eldar) and shelter (AT weapons in dow2 are much weaker and infantry based ones not very common while AI weapons were generally more powerful). the shelter was particularly important because you could use transports to get melee units into battle or to get weak squads into something that most of the enemy army didn't do much dps against. the transport role did tend to be slightly limited as the maps were small but there was occasional uses.
coh2 doesn't really support the shelter role (for a lot of reasons including generally lower dps and transports being relatively weak) but the maps are huge and that opens up a lot of potential for transport uses. instead transport can't move a significant percentage of the infantry types (at least mortar and AT gun but some transport can't move snipers or mgs) and they're both awkward to use and seldom offer significant advantages over shift clicking cap orders. they do have a time and a place but actually transporting units is very niche.
10 Jan 2016, 04:39 AM
#11
Posts: 1891
Fire Up! is great for chasing down 222s, Kubels, and Luchs. It's also great for flanking HMGs. Overall it's a great ability. Fire Up, flamers, flares, WP barrage, and EZ8 are some of the reasons why I think Rifle company is the best commander vs Ost.
The Fascisti Will Pay.
10 Jan 2016, 04:58 AM
#12
Posts: 128
Don't you know my lovely little comrade ?
Bekause, the capitalist sprint , by its nature , can only lasts for a while , and after which they get exhausted.
Bekause, the capitalist sprint , by its nature , can only lasts for a while , and after which they get exhausted.
It takes great skills to hide the fact that you have great skills
10 Jan 2016, 16:48 PM
#13
Posts: 593
I think this ability should be a vet ability , while the ability is on for a min or so troops rank up 2x faster, till ability goes away
10 Jan 2016, 17:57 PM
#14
7 Posts: 1664
Assault Grens sprint, Encirclement gives all Wehr inf (including sniper) sprint while Soviet Sniper had sprint removed, Counterattack and Falshrimjaeger commanders have sprint abilities, JLI sprint... but Riflemen get winded and cost more to sprint. There's a disconnect here.
10 Jan 2016, 18:05 PM
#15
Posts: 393
Activate "Fire up" get into ambulance with squad exit ambulance = endless sprint its not a bug its a feature Relic TM 
The only reason COH2 is still around, is because it's preserved by salt.
10 Jan 2016, 18:06 PM
#16
Posts: 30
Assault Grens sprint, Encirclement gives all Wehr inf (including sniper) sprint while Soviet Sniper had sprint removed, Counterattack and Falshrimjaeger commanders have sprint abilities, JLI sprint... but Riflemen get winded and cost more to sprint. There's a disconnect here.
That's exactly what i'm talking about, like wut? Why do i sprint and waste 10 muni and probably retreat after the sprint.
10 Jan 2016, 18:08 PM
#17
Posts: 823 | Subs: 3
For the love of Quinn though, DO NOT BRING BACK THE SUPPRESSION REMOVAL!
On Me! Bro, ON ME!
Me: I am scared, that i will need to shake ma head the same as when i read ur posts, so i rather not
Katitof: Its not even close to me even at my worst in the past, imagine ullu, incendiary, aaa, vetlolcake and disto merge into one mega axis zord with forcefield protecting it from accepting any factual data. Add to that a victim card(his rumblings at my PM).
Katitof: Its not even close to me even at my worst in the past, imagine ullu, incendiary, aaa, vetlolcake and disto merge into one mega axis zord with forcefield protecting it from accepting any factual data. Add to that a victim card(his rumblings at my PM).
10 Jan 2016, 19:12 PM
#18
Posts: 4314 | Subs: 7
Activate "Fire up" get into ambulance with squad exit ambulance = endless sprint its not a bug its a feature Relic TM
In lolbulance they have steroids.
10 Jan 2016, 19:21 PM
#19
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In lolbulance they have steroids.
They have a lot of stuff on there.
Many of CoH2 stories started with "Hold my rifle and watch me enter this ambulance there"
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
10 Jan 2016, 23:54 PM
#20
Posts: 3103 | Subs: 1
On Me! Bro, ON ME!
Ehhhh, On Me!'s acceptably different enough to make its usage not a simplistic "lolHMGs".
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