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OKW Panther vs UKF Comet

14 Nov 2015, 02:06 AM
#101
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Its probably useless if you yolo it into an entire army full of AT and snares. If you bothered (or could) micro it even a bit, it becomes a very strong and versatile tank. They still beat a comet 1v1 more often than not as well and can kill pretty much any allied armour 1v1.


The problem is, rather, how would any decent player let you 1v1 their tanks at all?
Every decent player knows to support their tanks with inf, snare, AT Guns.

And so Comet is much more useful generally.
14 Nov 2015, 04:52 AM
#102
avatar of TheMachine
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The fuel penalty exists for a reason, one of the reasons being the incredibly low teching costs. It's completely unfair to pull out numbers and say Panther costs 235 fuel.
14 Nov 2015, 12:43 PM
#103
avatar of Hiflex

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Not circling, just parking it infront of zis gun and killing it before it kills the panther.

Well, I call bullshit on that if the zis had 100hp there is no way (beside heavy rng influence, like the Video were a 100% hp P4 were not able to penetrate the rear armor of an IS2 with just ~5% hp) that a panther can pull that off.
14 Nov 2015, 12:54 PM
#104
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Nov 2015, 12:43 PMHiflex

Well, I call bullshit on that if the zis had 100hp there is no way (beside heavy rng influence, like the Video were a 100% hp P4 were not able to penetrate the rear armor of an IS2 with just ~5% hp) that a panther can pull that off.


You call bullshit because you don't know anything about the game

http://imgur.com/a/rQEf4

1 close and 1 medium fight

BTW love to see that my tanks dont fire their MGs if they are on proritize vehicles, because an mg42 is so dangerous for tanks right?
14 Nov 2015, 15:54 PM
#105
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Posts: 26

jump backJump back to quoted post13 Nov 2015, 17:46 PMNEVEC


Well, this guy said panter have 7,38 reload but it's actually 6,1-6,4.

http://www.coh2-stats.com/ballistic_weapons/panther_kwk42_75mm_mp

Reload: Duration min: 6,1, Duration max: 6.4.

If Comet have 6,32 they are same.


Penetration listed by OP is wrong. Firesparks is correct.



you are using coh-stats.com which is using the data from juni 2015, stats.coh2.hu is using the patch from 30th of october as game database, i tend to trust that website more
14 Nov 2015, 16:25 PM
#106
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14 Nov 2015, 16:53 PM
#107
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if you had the time being in this thread playing the game, i think all of this would be much less of a problem
14 Nov 2015, 18:06 PM
#108
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Nov 2015, 15:54 PMpR1sm

you are using coh-stats.com which is using the data from juni 2015, stats.coh2.hu is using the patch from 30th of october as game database, i tend to trust that website more


I'm using the ingame files from 30/09 (haven't update it), and i'm sure the penetration values haven't change. Still if you use the page you mention you would realize that you're wrong.

http://stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=comet_17p_77mm_hv_mp
http://stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=panther_kwk42_75mm_mp

Check again.
14 Nov 2015, 18:37 PM
#109
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Nov 2015, 15:54 PMpR1sm




you are using coh-stats.com which is using the data from juni 2015, stats.coh2.hu is using the patch from 30th of october as game database, i tend to trust that website more



Nothing was changed about panter stats. Read changelogs if you not sure.
14 Nov 2015, 22:16 PM
#110
avatar of Hiflex

Posts: 43



You call bullshit because you don't know anything about the game

http://imgur.com/a/rQEf4

1 close and 1 medium fight

BTW love to see that my tanks dont fire their MGs if they are on proritize vehicles, because an mg42 is so dangerous for tanks right?

So still your whole argument is irrelevant bacause of the maingun. But hey, at least you tried.
14 Nov 2015, 22:57 PM
#111
avatar of Kubelecer

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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Nov 2015, 22:16 PMHiflex

So still your whole argument is irrelevant bacause of the maingun. But hey, at least you tried.


Are you seriously implying the panther main gun has ANY effect on infantry? Play the game or prove me wrong, but I doubt you'd do either.

Oh look the panther didn't even shoot once at the zis gun and still killed it.

http://imgur.com/a/SW6kV

Yes that maingun oh my god how fucking sad are you that you have to complain that one of the best tanks in the game doesn't win you the game because you are bad?
15 Nov 2015, 00:49 AM
#112
avatar of l4hti

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Panther is fine
15 Nov 2015, 00:54 AM
#113
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I do feel an armour buff or reload decrease coming for the panther.
15 Nov 2015, 02:09 AM
#114
avatar of LuGer33

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I do feel an armour buff or reload decrease coming for the panther.

Uh armor buff? Isn't it already one of if not the most armored vehicle in the game? Its frontal armor bounces even Jackson rounds all the time.
15 Nov 2015, 02:25 AM
#115
avatar of Hiflex

Posts: 43



Are you seriously implying the panther main gun has ANY effect on infantry? Play the game or prove me wrong, but I doubt you'd do either.

Oh look the panther didn't even shoot once at the zis gun and still killed it.

http://imgur.com/a/SW6kV

Yes that maingun oh my god how fucking sad are you that you have to complain that one of the best tanks in the game doesn't win you the game because you are bad?

1. I never said anything about a Panther not winning me a game or anything.
2. Nice work you did there, I would say thank you if there were not an insult in every comment you write. Yeah...talking about how sad you have to be, huh?
3. Seriously, do an anger management and try not to jump conclusions because one random guy calls bullshit on your arguement. If you go to university or college you will have huges problems if someone critics your points and you insult him like you do here.
4. I play the game, I may or may not be as good as you, but from my experiences it didnt felt like a Panther was able to pull that off. (http://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/steamid/76561198006595236)
And now enjoy your win in an Internet arguement. I hope it was worth your work. :sibPheasant:
15 Nov 2015, 02:30 AM
#116
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Posts: 871

jump backJump back to quoted post15 Nov 2015, 02:25 AMHiflex

4. I play the game, I may or may not be as good as you, but from my experiences it didnt felt like a Panther was able to pull that off. (http://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/steamid/76561198006595236)


This is the problem with balance discussions coming from someone who is so heavily skewed towards Allies or Axis. People are only experiencing one side of the coin.

:thumb: to you posting your player card though, more than a lot of people do around here.
15 Nov 2015, 02:57 AM
#117
avatar of Hiflex

Posts: 43



This is the problem with balance discussions coming from someone who is so heavily skewed towards Allies or Axis. People are only experiencing one side of the coin.

Thats true though.
However, I played USF 1v1 and UKF 1v1/2v2 since the launch of UKF almost equal(if not more then) to Ost/OKW.
15 Nov 2015, 03:12 AM
#118
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Posts: 1617

jump backJump back to quoted post14 Nov 2015, 16:25 PMArclyte
l2p


God forbids you from not being a soviet fanboy and a retard? If you don't have anything to add (yes, l2p is an exception kid) don't comment your bs No1 cares about your 4v4 one sided biased opinion or how hard you can bash others. Thanks.

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